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Manitoba Peregrines => Selkirk Peregrines => : LM March 25, 2013, 15:29

: Selkirk Peregrines - 2013 / Ty & Paris
: LM March 25, 2013, 15:29
I have been watching for Ty and Paris to return to the tower
I saw a falcon flying past our apt building this morning, but didn't see action at the tower itself
just wondering though when they will start to repair the nest again for another summer?

in the meantime will keep my eyes open for them
: Re: Selkirk Peregrines - 2013 / Ty & Paris
: The Peregrine Chick March 26, 2013, 22:06
We've got another local keeping an eye on the site and all he has seen is a couple of merlins setting up territories nearby in a residential neighbourhood, nothing yet of peregrines .... hopefully soon though!

And yes, we are working on getting a safe nestbox into place, weather hasn't been helping but we are waiting (hopefully) for a window ...
: Re: Selkirk Peregrines - 2013 / Ty & Paris
: Cathy179 April 29, 2013, 09:22
Hi Tracy, a question for you!  Since I am geographically closest to the Selkirk birds I wonder if there is any update from that site?  It has been about a month since you reported a peregrine in the area and I wonder if anything developed out in our neck of the woods.  Cathy Welch in Clandeboye
: Re: Selkirk Peregrines - 2013 / Ty & Paris
: The Peregrine Chick April 29, 2013, 10:40
Nothing so far ... just a couple of merlins catching the attention of local photographers.
If we see anything or I hear anything, this will be the first place I post it  :)
: Re: Selkirk Peregrines - 2013 / Ty & Paris
: The Peregrine Chick May 17, 2013, 17:37
Dennis and Wowzer were able to confirm that the male in Selkirk is Ty again (yippeee) and the female is unbanded but sure looks like Paris from last year.  We didn't get many photos of her last year, but we have a few more this year, so we should be able to tell in the future if its her again.  They haven't decided where to nest yet so we chase them from one building to another building to another building.  They nested last year so no reason why they shouldn't try again this year, especially since they are back in good time.  Keeping our fingers crossed at least!
: Re: Selkirk Peregrines - 2013 / Ty & Paris
: RCF May 17, 2013, 19:31
Good news to hear that Ty is back!!   8)
: Re: Selkirk Peregrines - 2013 / Ty & Paris
: Kinderchick May 17, 2013, 22:49
Dennis and Wowzer were able to confirm that the male in Selkirk is Ty again (yippeee) and the female is unbanded but sure looks like Paris from last year...

That is good news! :D
: Re: Selkirk Peregrines - 2013 / Ty & Paris
: photosbydennis May 18, 2013, 06:56
Gallery for the Selkirk birds has been started.

http://www.pbase.com/photosbydennis/selkirk_2013
: Re: Selkirk Peregrines - 2013 / Ty & Paris
: allikat May 18, 2013, 15:32
Good spottin' Dennis! 
Great news that Ty is back in his territory with his petite belle amie!
Hopefully there will be some chicks from this pair this year!
: Re: Selkirk Peregrines - 2013 / Ty & Paris
: newchick May 19, 2013, 18:36
Gallery for the Selkirk birds has been started.

http://www.pbase.com/photosbydennis/selkirk_2013
Nice pictures Denis.  These are such beautiful birds.
: Re: Selkirk Peregrines - 2013 / Ty & Paris
: photosbydennis May 22, 2013, 18:35
Today was open up the trailer day in Gimli...now to get there you have 2 options # 8 or # 9 Hwy. Did I mention that # 9 runs very close to Selkirk...well that was the route I took. The sad news is that I don't really have anything exciting to report. 1 bird seen...Paris I believe was just sitting sunning herself.
Perhaps next time will be more rewarding  ???
: Re: Selkirk Peregrines - 2013 / Ty & Paris
: Kinderchick May 22, 2013, 19:43
Nice to hear that you saw "Paris" on your way to Gimli, Dennis. :D
: Re: Selkirk Peregrines - 2013 / Ty & Paris
: photosbydennis May 23, 2013, 08:31
Few more photos of "Luncheon with Ty" have been loaded.

http://www.pbase.com/photosbydennis/selkirk_2013
: Re: Selkirk Peregrines - 2013 / Ty & Paris
: RCF May 23, 2013, 12:18
As always, great photos Dennis!!  :)
: Re: Selkirk Peregrines - 2013 / Ty & Paris
: allikat May 23, 2013, 20:30
Whistle, whistle - Ty is a looker!  Good job Paris! 
: Re: Selkirk Peregrines - 2013 / Ty & Paris
: bccs May 23, 2013, 20:50
Whistle, whistle - Ty is a looker!  Good job Paris! 
  oh, yes, but we all want to know where is Tupper? ???
: Re: Selkirk Peregrines - 2013 / Ty & Paris
: photosbydennis May 25, 2013, 07:40
The last visit to Selkirk found Ty having lunch and the rest of the photos have been loaded, and can be found here http://www.pbase.com/photosbydennis/selkirk_2013  hopefully more in the day's to come.
: Re: Selkirk Peregrines - 2013 / Ty & Paris
: RCF May 25, 2013, 07:43
Ty is certainly a very nice looking tiercel!!  :-*
: Re: Selkirk Peregrines - 2013 / Ty & Paris
: The Peregrine Chick June 01, 2013, 11:04
We are going to check on these two in the next little bit ... not sure they are ready to nest but we think so so if we find them we may find their final choice for nest site at the same time!  And if they are obviously not nesting yet, "we'll be back" ...
: Re: Selkirk Peregrines - 2013 / Ty & Paris
: allikat July 26, 2013, 21:02
Any word on this pair? 
: Re: Selkirk Peregrines - 2013 / Ty & Paris
: The Peregrine Chick July 26, 2013, 22:35
Any word on this pair? 

Yes but not the kind you are asking about Allikat.  Ty has been back all season in Selkirk and we are pretty convinced that the unbanded female he is with is Paris but they don't appear to be nesting.  Every time we corner them they are somewhere different and we can't find their nest.  But we keep looking because they were successful last year and we can't see a reason why they wouldn't be nesting this year.  But maybe we are wrong and it isn't Paris rather another unbanded female (we've had a few unbanded birds this year so not an unlikely scenario) and that's why they aren't nesting.

Basically, the word is there is a pair and the banded bird is Ty but other than that they are not saying much ... We have decided that they are a puzzle that we haven't solved yet ...
: Re: Selkirk Peregrines - 2013 / Ty & Paris
: allikat July 27, 2013, 00:10
Thank you for the reply TPC!

I hoped to hear of better news, but, all in all, in reality, the best news is, Ty came back for another season.  So, to me, that's excellent news, but, if there isn't successful nesting, then, doesn't the male move on, or do they claim their territory and hope to procreate with another female?

: Re: Selkirk Peregrines - 2013 / Ty & Paris
: The Peregrine Chick July 27, 2013, 08:33
I hoped to hear of better news, but, all in all, in reality, the best news is, Ty came back for another season.  So, to me, that's excellent news, but, if there isn't successful nesting, then, doesn't the male move on, or do they claim their territory and hope to procreate with another female? 

It's not as quick as that Alli.  Not nesting isn't the same as no nesting successfully.  If the female is Paris, they have nested successfully together once so he would likely remain with her whether they nest successfully or not, at least for a year, perhaps two.  Remember Doorly in Topeka?  They had 4 or 5 nests as I recall where he smashed all the eggs (no one knows why he did that - non-viable perhaps or just didn't understand what eggs were about) until the year one chick hatched and he made a complete 180 and was perfect dad.  If the female isn't Paris, then its not unusual for a pair not to nest together in their first year.  And if the female is borderline too young to breed, then again, no impetus not to remain with her. 

Ivy's first mate was Lucy and they were unsuccessful.  Ivy's second mate was Jules and they too were unsuccessful (location, location, location!) and it wasn't until he convinced Princess he was mate material that he found a permanent mate.  Now Ivy is a bit flighty, being hot and heavy with Jules then Joli before Princess this year is evidence enough of his determination to have chicks.  Once Princess was back however, there was no question where his loyalties lay.

Holly on the other hand found a mate during Zeus' sabbatical year with her but then returned to Zeus immediately afterwards. Zeus had 4 mates and he trained them all well.  Interestingly, despite her most successful year to date with Zeus in 2009, Hurricane took up with Brooklyn very quickly in 2010 and she's not done as well in terms of numbers of young to survive to fledging.  Princess was very loyal, she was steadfast in her bond with Trey until she was sure he wasn't coming back.  So while every bird and pair are different, they do tend to stick with what and who works.

They have been in the Selkirk area together all summer though they did arrive later (maybe that was the reason not to nest? maybe).  And we can't say if they haven't nested and perhaps lost the nest and we didn't find it before it was lost.  And perhaps they are just so far behind the other nests (more than a month) and we haven't found it because they are being secretive and they still have eggs or chicks that are too young to be seen/heard as we search for them. 

As I said, they are our puzzle pair ...
: Re: Selkirk Peregrines - 2013 / Ty & Paris
: Kinderchick July 27, 2013, 23:23
I found this to be very interesting reading, TPC. Thank you for your lengthy explanation & reflections. :) I might add that Conner & Diana in Ottawa have been together for several years, although I am not sure for exactly how long, yet for some reason they have not managed to produce a successful nest.
: Re: Selkirk Peregrines - 2013 / Ty & Paris
: photosbydennis July 31, 2013, 19:19
On my way to the lake I always take a run through Selkirk in hopes of spotting something of interest...just when I think perhaps, nothing ???
The birds here are on and off as far as seeing them...starting to wonder if they have perhaps have taken a year off ?
Indications showed all the right things where going on...sooooo I'll keep checking with hopes of finding something that I have missed.
: Re: Selkirk Peregrines - 2013 / Ty & Paris
: allikat August 01, 2013, 22:20
I found this to be very interesting reading, TPC. Thank you for your lengthy explanation & reflections. :) I might add that Conner & Diana in Ottawa have been together for several years, although I am not sure for exactly how long, yet for some reason they have not managed to produce a successful nest.
I hoped to hear of better news, but, all in all, in reality, the best news is, Ty came back for another season.  So, to me, that's excellent news, but, if there isn't successful nesting, then, doesn't the male move on, or do they claim their territory and hope to procreate with another female? 

It's not as quick as that Alli.  Not nesting isn't the same as no nesting successfully.  If the female is Paris, they have nested successfully together once so he would likely remain with her whether they nest successfully or not, at least for a year, perhaps two.  Remember Doorly in Topeka?  They had 4 or 5 nests as I recall where he smashed all the eggs (no one knows why he did that - non-viable perhaps or just didn't understand what eggs were about) until the year one chick hatched and he made a complete 180 and was perfect dad.  If the female isn't Paris, then its not unusual for a pair not to nest together in their first year.  And if the female is borderline too young to breed, then again, no impetus not to remain with her. 

Ivy's first mate was Lucy and they were unsuccessful.  Ivy's second mate was Jules and they too were unsuccessful (location, location, location!) and it wasn't until he convinced Princess he was mate material that he found a permanent mate.  Now Ivy is a bit flighty, being hot and heavy with Jules then Joli before Princess this year is evidence enough of his determination to have chicks.  Once Princess was back however, there was no question where his loyalties lay.

Holly on the other hand found a mate during Zeus' sabbatical year with her but then returned to Zeus immediately afterwards. Zeus had 4 mates and he trained them all well.  Interestingly, despite her most successful year to date with Zeus in 2009, Hurricane took up with Brooklyn very quickly in 2010 and she's not done as well in terms of numbers of young to survive to fledging.  Princess was very loyal, she was steadfast in her bond with Trey until she was sure he wasn't coming back.  So while every bird and pair are different, they do tend to stick with what and who works.

They have been in the Selkirk area together all summer though they did arrive later (maybe that was the reason not to nest? maybe).  And we can't say if they haven't nested and perhaps lost the nest and we didn't find it before it was lost.  And perhaps they are just so far behind the other nests (more than a month) and we haven't found it because they are being secretive and they still have eggs or chicks that are too young to be seen/heard as we search for them. 

As I said, they are our puzzle pair ...
Thank you TPC for that explanation.  I was curious about the meaning of a successful nest, wasn't sure if Male Falcons, or the Females for that matter, after some time, pick another mate to have eggs or not.  Love and respect the loyalty of these birds, some different, but, all in all, the bond of a mate seems to be very strong, in some cases...(we'll leave Ivy and Joli out of this one -  ::), little feather fluffers)!