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Title: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 01, 2014, 22:07
I'll post an update here shortly to bring folks up to date
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 01, 2014, 22:08
And I'm sure there will be enough for two posts   :)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 01, 2014, 22:13
May 1 - Nest Check

We checked the nestbox today to check if Princess continued laying.  Last time we weren't sure if one of her eggs had a puncture but it looks like it might just have been a dark spot.  When we checked today we found three eggs, one that looks like it might be the one we though was damaged and incubation has begun.  If there is a fourth egg laid we'll know that the first egg wasn't damaged, if only three, then could be that egg one was damaged and was quickly discarded.  In any case, the three eggs today all look great as does Princess and Smiley.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: ballywing on May 02, 2014, 01:12
Princess & Smiley - A new couple, A new Season - whatever happened to Ivy??  -Oh well,  just glad to have a WEST NEST location with our beloved Princess - and very happy to have the forum back!! :)

Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: mjlo on May 02, 2014, 06:05
Amazing! Thank you Peregrine chick for all your hard work and dedication at getting the forum up and running again!

Any Ivy news from partner spotters in the South?
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Friesens on May 02, 2014, 06:18
now the waiting begins :D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: newchick on May 02, 2014, 06:25
Can't wait until the camera is up and running!

Glad to see the Forum running again.  Keeping talons crossed it stays working! ;)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: wpgfan on May 02, 2014, 06:28
Princess seems to be hard on the males...she had Trey for a few years, then Ivy for a few years and now Smiley :)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: GCG on May 02, 2014, 06:50
Can you provide us with an ETA for hatching? Are the Royals in the nestbox or the East ledge? TPC, you must feel some relief to have the forum back up. Catch a breath, you now have a season of work ahead. I, for one, sincerely appreciate what you (and others) have done for us.  :) Smiley has an emoticon named after him.  ::)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: sparkster on May 02, 2014, 07:41
Ditto on everyone's postings. Thanks, TPC, for all of your hard work in getting the Forum back up. And also to CBC for posting your tweets for those of us who are not on Twitter. I am glad that Princess and Smiley are in the west nest box. It will be great to have sound from both McKenzie Seeds and the Radisson nests this year. I am looking forward to seeing and hearing the chicks and parents, feedings, and all of the excitement! Woo hoo!!  ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: carly on May 02, 2014, 08:33
Yay..welcome back!  And thank you TPC!  :)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Liz on May 02, 2014, 09:28
Thanks for all your hard work, TPC.  Glad we're back! 
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: moka on May 02, 2014, 09:56
Bless you TPC!  :-* I don't always post in the off season but the minute the birds started coming back, I felt that I was cut adrift without any way of knowing what was happening.

We have eggs, yeah Princess. Am waiting for the cameras to go live.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: soaring west on May 02, 2014, 09:58
It is so nice to see everyone ready for another season, that is not winter. Thanks TPC for all the work you do.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 02, 2014, 10:08
Birds are in the west nestbox this year thankfully, one less thing to worry about with a new male and an older female who got a wee bit beat up earlier this year (more on that later when I have more time - and yes, she's fine, no worries).  Smiley didn't seem to much like the nestledge, liked the nestbox but he has atrocious manners - he poops in the box and has yet to figure out how to make a scrape, which is unusual in my experience with males.  Actually Smiley's an unusual character all the way around - more too on that later when I have more time  ;)

But you want details, okay ... look for a hatch date at the end of May/beginning of June - I'm inclined to think beginning of June though.  That would put banding late June, fledging in the second half of July.  Both CBC and Eye-Spy are knee-deep in upgrades to the computer hardware/software (XP related) but we are still hoping everything will be in place to go live at least a week before the eggs hatch.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: mspeach on May 02, 2014, 10:11
Thanks TPC for all of your hard work.   Your head must be spinning.    Another year, another mate.   Trey was my favorite.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Moonstar on May 02, 2014, 10:17
Very happy the forum is back up.  Hope it all stays fixed.  Looking forward to reading everyones posts/updates.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: bcbird on May 02, 2014, 10:26
Congratulations on getting the forum up, TPC.
Thanks for the updates on CBC.
Would Smiley bring a new gene set?  I don't remember whether he is related to the Radisson family tree.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 02, 2014, 11:58
Would Smiley bring a new gene set?  I don't remember whether he is related to the Radisson family tree.

He is and he isn't  :D

Smiley is the son of Terminator who is the daughter of Zeus who is the son of Phoebe who is the sister of T-Rex who was the father of Trey who was the father of Ivy.  So Smiley is related the Radisson birds, but back before Princess arrived and added her genetics.  Hurricane and Brooklyn are the only birds who are fractionally more closely related to one another and they are distant cousins in the scheme of things.  Beau and Beatrix and Hart and Joli are not related at all to their mates this year.  So though we have lots of newbies (Beatrix, Hart & Smiley) they are providing a whack of new material to our gene pool.  Who says romance is dead  ;)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: MayShowers on May 02, 2014, 12:43
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Smiley is the son of Terminator who is the daughter of Zeus who is the son of Phoebe who is the sister of T-Rex who was the father of Trey who was the father of Ivy
Whew, try to keep that all straight . . . Thanks for all your hard work and dedication TPC.  It's great to have the forum back up and to be back in touch with everyone.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Dagny on May 02, 2014, 13:25
It's great to have the Forum up again.  Thank you for all your hard work, TPC.

After that long nasty winter, I'm really looking forward to happy hours watching the cams, and to looking way, way up every time I'm downtown.   :D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: gran2496 on May 02, 2014, 14:20
Great to see the forum back, thanks PC for all your hard work.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Kinderchick on May 02, 2014, 18:40
Smiley is the son of Terminator who is the daughter of Zeus who is the son of Phoebe who is the sister of T-Rex who was the father of Trey who was the father of Ivy...
LOL! Had to read that several times in order to connect the dots. Almost sounds biblical... "Terminator begat Smiley, etc. etc." Have no idea how you keep it all straight, TPC. But am certainly glad you possess such a gift. 8)

Great news that Princess & Smiley have eggs. Will be interesting to see what kind of dad Smiley is.
On another note, weren't Princess & Hart an "item" before Smiley claimed the Radisson nest box?
If so, could it be possible that some of those eggs have Hart's genes in them? Just wondering? :-\
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Feather2Fin on May 02, 2014, 21:52
I was going through withdrawal without my spring peregrine fix.  Smiley the little guy that looked like he was going to stay in Winnipeg for the whole winter is back. As I recall he tried scratching last fall. He is a character.  Princess is having a fling with a younger male.  :o Gosh I hope that works out!

Thank you TPC for getting the forum back up and running. I can just imagine how terribly stressful that must have been. It is appreciated. Thank you to all concerned.

 
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: birdcamfan on May 03, 2014, 01:21
All that hanging around Winnipeg over the last couple of years. Knew there had to be a reason, opportunity only knocks once. Pretty sneaky Smiley, pretty sneaky.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: moka on May 03, 2014, 08:45
The weather isn't getting much better, thank god they're under cover this year. Smiley showed good sense.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Saoirse on May 03, 2014, 10:57
Smiley is the son of Terminator who is the daughter of Zeus who is the son of Phoebe who is the sister of T-Rex who was the father of Trey who was the father of Ivy. 

You've got to be kidding . . . okay, I really need a paper and pencil to diagram this . . .  ;)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 03, 2014, 11:24
All that hanging around Winnipeg over the last couple of years. Knew there had to be a reason, opportunity only knocks once. Pretty sneaky Smiley, pretty sneaky.

Actually, this is Smiley's second shot with this strategy - though he failed last year, he was in the right place with a very receptive female with Joli until Cowboy came back.  And he's in good company ... Trey did exactly the same thing and look how well that turned out!  And Screech out in Brandon was another right time, right place male - he happened to be around when Zeus took one of his sabbatical years and the result was - Brooklyn!  Another good result.  Sometimes the sneaky (aka patient) peregrine begats a dynasty.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Saoirse on May 03, 2014, 12:49
Without actually diagramming Smiley's ancestry, I'm guessing that his relationship to Trey is distant enough that he is actually bringing new blood to Princess's offspring. It'll be interesting to see how he differs from Ivy.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: ballywing on May 03, 2014, 13:49
Will miss Ivy this year -  (hope he's ok!!) -  but it's nice to have a new birdie to get to know. Princess will train him well I'm sure. I'm just SO glad they're in the West Nest - shelter from the howling winds and rains - Phew!!  ;D
TPC, is this Smiley's first time being a 'Dad' ? - How old is he?
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 03, 2014, 15:24
TPC, is this Smiley's first time being a 'Dad' ? - How old is he?   

Yes this is his first nesting - he hatched in 2009 in Grand Forks.  His full sib & nest mate is Alice who was in Wpg in 2010 and Brandon in 2011).  First report on him after he fledged (so far as we know) was in West Winnipeg in the spring of 2010, then again in 2012 and then at the Radisson in 2013, then HSC when Ivy booted him out and then south of the Radisson territory when Cowboy kicked him out of the Logan territory.  Now he's back and he's hit the lottery, an experienced female and the top spot in Winnipeg.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Jo on May 03, 2014, 21:08
Now he's back and he's hit the lottery, an experienced female and the top spot in Winnipeg.

Thank you for all the updates and getting the forum back up and running. I had to draw an org chart based on your earlier description of Smiley's ancestry.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: bcbird on May 03, 2014, 23:21
Now he's back and he's hit the lottery, an experienced female and the top spot in Winnipeg.

It's a great story for Smiley, but it does break up the dynasty of four generations of Radisson males, yes?

Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 04, 2014, 09:24
Now he's back and he's hit the lottery, an experienced female and the top spot in Winnipeg.

It's a great story for Smiley, but it does break up the dynasty of four generations of Radisson males, yes?

Actually, not really.

Pop was our first male who was replaced by his son (from the first wild nest) T-Rex, who was replaced by Simba, a nephew of T-Rex's from Brandon (Simba was a son of Phoebe), who was the replaced by T-Rex's son Trey, so was replaced by Trey's son Ivy and now Smiley who is a 2nd cousin once removed through Terminator (grand-daughter of Phoebe). 

So still in the family and making a pattern of sorts, 2 Radisson males, 1 related outsider, 2 Radisson males, 1 unrelated outsider ... Simba was around for 2 years, Smiley is 5 years old now so we'll have to see what kind of longevity he has ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: moka on May 04, 2014, 10:09
His longevity may depend on how well he performs. Princess is not known for her gentle nature.

If he doesn't do enough of a good job, would she still accept him next year?
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 04, 2014, 12:07
If he doesn't do enough of a good job, would she still accept him next year? 

Would depend on the alternative ... if she returns (keep in mind she is 12 years old this year) and if she has two candidates - Smiley and another male - then Princess may side with Smiley or she may just stay out of the "negotiations" and go with whomever wins.  She didn't seem to have any problems choosing between Hart and Smiley this year, so theoretically she could do the same next year.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 04, 2014, 14:49
Thanks to Eye-Spy the cams at the Radisson are back up and operating.  Now we need to wait for the CBC upgrades to be completed and we can finish getting the Radisson equipment ready for us to go live.  When the CBC upgrades are ready we should be ready to go out to Brandon and reinstall all the cam computer gear and then we should go live shortly thereafter.  Tentative "go live" date is after the Victoria Day weekend sometime.  When I have a better estimate I will be sure to post it.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 04, 2014, 14:52
Oops, almost forgot  :o  Eye-Spy reports a 4th egg in the nestbox and my first look through the cams again was of Smiley looking not half-bad getting onto the eggs to incubate.  Maybe he will turn out to be a keeper after all ... have to wait and watch and see ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: sparkster on May 04, 2014, 15:11
... Smiley didn't seem to much like the nestledge, liked the nestbox but he has atrocious manners - he poops in the box and has yet to figure out how to make a scrape, which is unusual in my experience with males. ...

This may be a dumb question, but if Smiley was unable to make a scrape, did Princess make it? Or did she just lay the eggs (four - yay!) without one?
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: ballywing on May 04, 2014, 15:51
Yay!! ...4 Eggs!!!.....Can't wait for the CAM to go live!!  ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 04, 2014, 17:09
This may be a dumb question, but if Smiley was unable to make a scrape, did Princess make it? Or did she just lay the eggs (four - yay!) without one?

Princess made the scrape, not as deep as the one Ivy used to make but certainly what she needed.  Considering how fast Smiley has figured out how to get four eggs under him, I'd like to think he will figure out that a good scrape makes him more appealing to the ladies.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: moka on May 04, 2014, 18:51
Princess made the scrape, not as deep as the one Ivy used to make but certainly what she needed.  Considering how fast Smiley has figured out how to get four eggs under him, I'd like to think he will figure out that a good scrape makes him more appealing to the ladies.

Sounds like he has good genes to pass on!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: GCG on May 05, 2014, 05:17
  Many thanks to Eye-Spy for getting the cameras up and running. You always come through for this forum.  :-* Four eggs for the Radisson Royals. Exciting news.  ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: soaring west on May 05, 2014, 11:48
It is wait and see now. Just like a bunch of aunties what for the next generation to come.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Falcon watcher on May 07, 2014, 13:00
I seem to be spinning from all the changes!  Wasn't able to view last year and this year seems to be getting off to a heck of a start!

Birds are in the west nestbox this year thankfully, one less thing to worry about with a new male and an older female who got a wee bit beat up earlier this year (more on that later when I have more time - and yes, she's fine, no worries).
 
TCP are you able to tell the story yet of what happened to Princess earlier this year?
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 07, 2014, 13:58
I seem to be spinning from all the changes!  Wasn't able to view last year and this year seems to be getting off to a heck of a start!

Birds are in the west nestbox this year thankfully, one less thing to worry about with a new male and an older female who got a wee bit beat up earlier this year (more on that later when I have more time - and yes, she's fine, no worries).
 
TCP are you able to tell the story yet of what happened to Princess earlier this year?

Shortly - it's not that it's difficult to explain - she ran afoul of something but no idea what - it just that I think it would be easier to show with photos over a few days and haven't had a lot of time recently to find them and put them together.  I will try to get back to it in the next couple of days.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Feather2Fin on May 08, 2014, 07:42
I have seen some fly bys with a couple of unidentified Peregrines demonstrating their tuck, dive and soar skills this spring and I couldn't help but wonder if Smiley was showing Princess a favorite spot of his.  Last night at 12:15 a falcon landed outside the bedroom window with the usual sqwaking that I associate with Smiley.  I did not get to identify the visitor but it left this morning at 6:05 when my cat meowed.  As I am moving soon (in June) I was thrilled. I know how lucky I am.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Kinderchick on May 08, 2014, 09:03
Shortly - it's not that it's difficult to explain - she ran afoul of something but no idea what - it just that I think it would be easier to show with photos over a few days and haven't had a lot of time recently to find them and put them together.  I will try to get back to it in the next couple of days.

I am wondering - did Princess require a stint in rehab? ???
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: soaring west on May 08, 2014, 10:43
Feather2Fin...That is a very special place to be able to see everything around and a visitor to your balcony.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 08, 2014, 11:01
Shortly - it's not that it's difficult to explain - she ran afoul of something but no idea what - it just that I think it would be easier to show with photos over a few days and haven't had a lot of time recently to find them and put them together.  I will try to get back to it in the next couple of days.

I am wondering - did Princess require a stint in rehab? ???

No she was fine, just a bit banged up.  Caught her on video doing all the usual stuff, flying, hunting, scrape building. 
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 08, 2014, 11:06
1105h - just check the cameras and Princess is parked on the eggs looking very comfortable and relaxed.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Feather2Fin on May 08, 2014, 17:51
Peregrine back this afternoon - napping in the same spot as last night. It is an unbanded bird.  Bigger than I recall that Smiley was last year.  Has a distinctive grey patch of feathers on her left breast.  I will try to post a link to a photo album.  I am always terrible at this but I will give it a go.


(http://i1284.photobucket.com/albums/a570/Pam2506/Peregrine%20in%202014/DSC00586_zps8645ec64.jpg) (http://s1284.photobucket.com/user/Pam2506/media/Peregrine%20in%202014/DSC00586_zps8645ec64.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: moka on May 08, 2014, 21:02
Thank you for the photo. It's amazing that you get this view from your window.
Lucky you!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Kinderchick on May 08, 2014, 22:50
Peregrine back this afternoon - napping in the same spot as last night. It is an unbanded bird.  Bigger than I recall that Smiley was last year.  Has a distinctive grey patch of feathers on her left breast.  I will try to post a link to a photo album.  I am always terrible at this but I will give it a go.

WOW! Went to your photo album, F2F - those are awesome photos! 8) Interesting, that close-up of the very distinctive patch of grey feathers on left breast. TPC or Dennis may be able to ID the bird from your amazing photos, although no ID bands.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 08, 2014, 23:06
Peregrine back this afternoon - napping in the same spot as last night. It is an unbanded bird.  Bigger than I recall that Smiley was last year.  Has a distinctive grey patch of feathers on her left breast.  I will try to post a link to a photo album.  I am always terrible at this but I will give it a go.

The link to your photo gallery works very well F2F - and looking at that bird's feet, it is a female.  There are a whole whack of tundrius birds on migration right now so the bird might hang out or might be gone one morning.  To my eye, that is a mature female, no reason she shouldn't be on a nest somewhere so she may not stay long.

Very nice photo - very glad you posted it!

For those who know who Island Girl is, she is on the move - reached Panama yesterday afternoon.  She was pretty much in the same location this time last year.  Based on previous year's she'll be on Baffin Island when the Radisson & McKenzie Seeds chick hatch.  Three out of the last five years she has reached Baffin on June 4, last year it was June 3rd and in 2010 she got there early on June 1st.  Looking at Hawk Count, 25 peregrines were recorded in Michigan alone in the last 7 days - 9 were reported at one location yesterday, we haven't seen that anywhere all season.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: irenekl on May 09, 2014, 09:54
Feather2Fin those are quite wonderful photo opportunities you are having!!  How many floors up is this?
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Feather2Fin on May 09, 2014, 11:02
The visiting peregrine left this morning at 6:30 am. 

TPC - I am quite certain that you are correct that she is passing through on her migration.  She looked plum tuckered out and dozed and preened pretty much her entire 36 hr. visit.  We are on the south side of the building on the 25th floor so it makes sense that if she was coming from the south heading north, our ledge is a fine resting point on her route. 

TPC you mention that you can tell she is a female by her feet.  Can you elaborate?
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Doreen on May 09, 2014, 12:28
Wonderful pictures Feather2Fin. Lucky you indeed.  ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Shocka88 on May 09, 2014, 13:08
Great photos F2F........thanks for posting.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 09, 2014, 13:08
TPC you mention that you can tell she is a female by her feet.  Can you elaborate?  

Female peregrines are larger than male - that includes their feet.  Males feet are big but more gracile than the feet of females.  Females feet make you think twice about getting in their way.  Your peregrine's feet were definitely in the latter category.

Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Pam on May 09, 2014, 13:13
Great photo, f2f!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: soaring west on May 09, 2014, 16:30
feather2fin. What great photos and thank you very much for sharing them with us.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: moka on May 09, 2014, 16:55
feather2fin. What great photos and thank you very much for sharing them with us.

I agree, on those pictures you can see just how large those talons are. I think I saw a pellet near her feet on one picture.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Kinderchick on May 09, 2014, 17:52
Yes - the talons on that gal were indeed something to fear! :o And I, too, thought I saw a pellet on the ledge in one of the photos. Wonderful photos, for sure! What an extraordinary experience for you, F2F, to have a PF visit you like that! 8)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: RCF on May 09, 2014, 18:34
Peregrine back this afternoon - napping in the same spot as last night. It is an unbanded bird.  Bigger than I recall that Smiley was last year.  Has a distinctive grey patch of feathers on her left breast.  I will try to post a link to a photo album.  I am always terrible at this but I will give it a go.

Love your photos Feather2Fin!  The mark on her left breast looks like an old blood stain to me, maybe she was in a scuffle with another bird.  :-\ 
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: bcbird on May 09, 2014, 22:36
Wow, what great photos!  Thank you for posting them, F2F.
This is the first peregrine pellet I've seen for certain.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Feather2Fin on May 09, 2014, 23:23
Well when the visiting peregrine left today I thought she was headed north and I would never see her again.  I am astonished. She was back on the edge of the ledge tonight. Probably arrived about 10:30 or 11:00 but left again at 11:20 pm.  Maybe she wants to settle in Winnipeg but all of the males are taken, or not to her fancy.

If she is going to stay in Winnipeg maybe we should name her.  Hmm maybe something to do with her greyish green feathers on her left chest.  BTW-I don't think it was dried blood.

Do peregrines hunt at night too?
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 10, 2014, 09:05
Well when the visiting peregrine left today I thought she was headed north and I would never see her again.  I am astonished. She was back on the edge of the ledge tonight. Probably arrived about 10:30 or 11:00 but left again at 11:20 pm.  Maybe she wants to settle in Winnipeg but all of the males are taken, or not to her fancy.

If she is going to stay in Winnipeg maybe we should name her.  Hmm maybe something to do with her greyish green feathers on her left chest.  BTW-I don't think it was dried blood.

Do peregrines hunt at night too?

We've had birds hang out for a couple of hours, couple of days, couple of months, then take off.  Alice stayed for a whole summer then a couple of months the next spring before heading off with Zeus to Brandon.  We had seven unbanded peregrines on a building one year who were gone 6 hours later.  The tundra birds are moving and should be on their nesting grounds in early June, if you girl hangs out until then, the chance that she will hang out for the rest of the summer is pretty good.

Urban peregrines do apparently if there is enough light to do so safely - remember they fly at high speeds.  Some of the birds they like to eat are active after sunset but not over the night so might have been that.  Or she could have been checking out where to roost, mostly they like to roost out of the wind so she might have been checking out her choices or she could just have been taking a last constitutional.

As for naming her, without bands hard to know for sure if it is the same bird if she disappears for a few weeks or months.  The green on her breast won't stay, it could very well be blood or something else but it will wear off as she preens and/or when she moults as the year goes by.  Thing to do is get as many photos as you can without distressing her - head shots so you can see the pattern on her head which will look different depending on how she sits, stands, stretches, etc, but sometimes you can spot a unique feature - like Brooklyn's very white breast and Princess' crown of light coloured feathers on her head.  See if you can spot something like this - something that will survive her annual feather moult - and then, if she stays, that's when to consider what her personality is telling you should be her name.  T-Rex got his name because of his hyper-protective personality, Hurricane because she hatched in a year with a ton of tornadoes in the province during the nesting season and Ty because he and his siblings were giving me headaches - they hatched on the Radisson nest ledge.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: GCG on May 10, 2014, 15:51
Thank you TPC for your responses to the questions from F2F. And thank you F2F for your questions that allows us to gain additional information about our beloved PF's.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Feather2Fin on May 11, 2014, 10:02
Thanks TPC for your detailed response. Your response was very interesting. I haven't seen her since she left at 11:20 the other night but I have heard a peregrine in the area.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: moka on May 11, 2014, 12:07
Thank you TPC for your responses to the questions from F2F. And thank you F2F for your questions that allows us to gain additional information about our beloved PF's.

Having followed the forum, since the beginning, I think; it always amazes me at all the new information that I receive every season. Some things I probably forgot but mostly, it is interesting details to add to the peregrine story. There is so much more to learn.

Thanks again!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 12, 2014, 11:58
1150h - Princess is dozing on the eggs out of the rain in the nestbox; she was a bit fussy earlier, took her about 90 minutes to get the eggs the way she wanted them.  Smiley looks to be doing a decent job incubating, guess the proof will be when we have chicks hatching.  Then he'll have to prove he can keep his growing family fed - bringing home the food & technically feeding chicks.  But any male after Pop, T-Rex, Trey and Ivy was going to have to work hard to prove himself!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: birdbrain on May 12, 2014, 19:48
So very glad the eggs are in a protected place this year!  It was so awful to watch Princess in that horrible rain last year.  Although I will never forget it, her determination to protect those eggs was one of the most incredible things I have ever seen.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 12, 2014, 21:09
So very glad the eggs are in a protected place this year!  It was so awful to watch Princess in that horrible rain last year.  Although I will never forget it, her determination to protect those eggs was one of the most incredible things I have ever seen.

I agree, it is nice to watch her sound asleep with her head in the gravel in the nestbox ... she's been a bit fussy arranging the eggs when she takes over incubation, might be a function of a shallower nestscrape (don't know for sure, just a thought) but once she's on, she seems to settle nicely.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 13, 2014, 11:56
interestingly Smiley comes to visit Princess when she's on the eggs.  She barks at him and he hangs out on the box edge nonetheless.  On the other side of things, when he's had enough OR if he hears her when we can't, then he hops off the eggs and sits on the box edge until she turns up or leaves and she comes bolting in a minute or two later.  And they both seem to feel protected enough so sleep pretty deeply by all appearances.  Hopefully he's a more relaxing presence, last thing our "grand dame" needs is more a hyperactive youngster for a mate.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 14, 2014, 10:41
All quiet in the nestbox, Princess seems quieter this year, perhaps it's that she's more relaxed with Smiley?  No idea, she just seems, at least right now in the middle of incubation, less agitated, less control-freak, less diva-like.  Maybe she will morph back into Scary Princess as it gets closer to hatch, we'll have to wait and see ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: dupre501 on May 14, 2014, 12:21
I'm sure that being IN the nestbox this year is making a big difference.

With more peregrines in town and passing through, demands on territory would be increasing. Last year they were on the ledge and fighting to keep others out of the nestbox. They would have needed to be very scary last year.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: moka on May 15, 2014, 16:48
All quiet in the nestbox, Princess seems quieter this year, perhaps it's that she's more relaxed with Smiley?  No idea, she just seems, at least right now in the middle of incubation, less agitated, less control-freak, less diva-like.  Maybe she will morph back into Scary Princess as it gets closer to hatch, we'll have to wait and see ...

 ;D love the morph back to Scary Princess, TPC ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Jo on May 15, 2014, 18:34
Wonderful pic F2F.

Looking forward to the Falcon Cam and seeing how Princess and her new fella parent the chicks.

How big is Smiley? Wasn't Ivy the one who had a challenge getting all the eggs under him (or was that just inexperience)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Kinderchick on May 16, 2014, 14:47
Was in the downtown area this morning for an appt. On my way home, around 11:00 AM, , I was fortunate to see 2 PF heads poking out of the nest box. While I was waiting at a red light, 1 of the birds flew off. They must have been doing a shift change.  8)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Feather2Fin on May 16, 2014, 15:12
I too can't wait for the cameras to go live.

The lone unbanded female is still hanging around the building. She took off when I went to grab my camera yesterday. 

A couple people have commented on the "pellets".  There is a huge second pellet from the most recent visit.  The first one looked like she had horked (is that even a word?) up a dehydrated mousey, bird alien.  Is this falcon poop?  I am used to seeing the whitewashing of walls so I wasn't sure which end this came out of.
 :P
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Cooper on May 16, 2014, 19:15
Horked is s very apt word for pellet expulsion. The first time I saw it happen I was horrified. I thought I was watching the bird choking to death on something. I was so relieved when I saw what was actually produced after all that effort.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 16, 2014, 22:09
A couple people have commented on the "pellets".  There is a huge second pellet from the most recent visit.  The first one looked like she had horked (is that even a word?) up a dehydrated mousey, bird alien.  Is this falcon poop?  I am used to seeing the whitewashing of walls so I wasn't sure which end this came out of.

"Horked" is very apt.  Pellets are peregrine versions of cat hair balls except where a hair ball is a cat's own hair, the pellets are the undigested remains of meals - feathers, bones if birds, if bugs like grasshoppers or giant water bugs, wings and carapaces.  So yes, "horked up a dehydrated mousey bird alien" works.   :D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Feather2Fin on May 17, 2014, 09:51
Thanks for the information on the pellets.  Good to know.

I am not sure that the female is alone anymore.  This morning I saw two falcons flying to the roof. I'm concerned that they may try to nest on the roof. I'm not sure how keen the mangement of the building will be about a nest on the roof.  Also, they are doing some work on coating balconies which requires scaffolding from the roof.

What is the legislation about discouraging nesting or interfering with the nest of an endangered species?  ???
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: moka on May 17, 2014, 15:02
TPC, when do you expect the eggs to hatch at the Radisson?
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: bcbird on May 17, 2014, 17:41
Hi moka. 
TPC updated the info on the main index page of the Forum:

May 16

Eggs at Radisson & McKenzie Seeds are due to hatch about the beginning of June.
So long as all the upgraded computer equipment will "talk" to each other,
the CBC Manitoba Falcon Cams will go live before the chicks begin hatching.

I will post launch date when we have one.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: moka on May 18, 2014, 13:05
Thanks bcbird!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 20, 2014, 09:10
0905h CDT

Princess is napping on the eggs.  She is tucked in under the roof on the box all nice and dry, doesn't even look like her beak is getting damp (it has in the past!).  The gravel in the exterior part of the box is damp an there is some water puddling on the nestledge but nothing that will make the peregrines take any notice of.

Oops, now she's bored and playing with pebbles ... definitely into the second half of incubation!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Kinderchick on May 20, 2014, 11:09
With all this rain these days, I'm so glad that Princess & Smiley chose the West nest box to lay their eggs & raise their upcoming brood. :)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 25, 2014, 10:09
Box is nice and dry, Princess has been sleeping on the eggs with her head inside and just the end of her tail and wing feathers outside getting damp, didn't seem to bother her in the least.  Smiley came in just before 1000h to relieve her.  No rush on either of their parts - heck, he even had time to preen a couple of breast feathers before walking over and getting on the eggs.  This young man needs to up his incubation game.  Eggs aren't at risk, he's just not as diligent as our Radisson males have been in their incubation duties!!  We'll have to see if he's better at the "chick rearing" stage.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: moka on May 25, 2014, 12:27
Is this because Smiley is young and inexperienced? ::)

Here's hoping that Princess will whip him into shape.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 25, 2014, 12:39
Is this because Smiley is young and inexperienced? ::)

Here's hoping that Princess will whip him into shape.

Maybe, or maybe just his personality.  Not a big character flaw if it is. 
He likes to preen a lot does Smiley, maybe he feels he must live up to his name and always be presentable and smiling  ;)  (yes, that is very anthropomorphic!)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Kinderchick on May 25, 2014, 13:35
Sure am glad these 2 chose the west nest box & are keeping as dry as can be. That was quite the rain storm we had yesterday afternoon/evening, here in Winnipeg!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 25, 2014, 16:25
Sure am glad these 2 chose the west nest box & are keeping as dry as can be. That was quite the rain storm we had yesterday afternoon/evening, here in Winnipeg!

I'm glad for a couple of reasons - one of course is relative ease of access at banding - the other is that these two are sleeping during incubation more than I have seen them do in a number of years.  Nice that they can do that undercover and out of the weather but also from anything avian that might disturb them.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Liz on May 25, 2014, 21:05
I'm so glad to know that all is good!   Maybe her age and his youth are a good combo for sleeping ;D, and best for the eggs. 
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: susha on May 26, 2014, 14:31
Everything's looking so good this year for the Royals - much preferred nest location, Princess back as wonderful as ever and desirable (non-related and young) male to be the new dad.  ;D

Except I still wonder what happened to Ivy :'(
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 27, 2014, 11:38
Except I still wonder what happened to Ivy :'( 

Accident maybe.  Or just very late and knows he's too late.  Or very late and Smiley explained the new pecking order and he's off somewhere else.  Or he found another lady friend ... he been awfully friendly with ladies in the past - Lucy, Jules, Princess, Sandy and Joli. 

If he is around somewhere and someone gets a look at his leg bands, they will hopefully report it and we'll get notified, but could take more than a few months depending on when reported and how big the backlog is at the banding office.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 28, 2014, 13:16
Shift change about 15 minutes ago and Princess is on the eggs once again.  Don't think we are quite ready for hatch, she tends to do all the incubating once the kids start to make noises inside the shell.  Smiley had his usual shift from 8 to just a few minutes ago so all seems to be progressing the way it usually does.  We are day 28 of incubation by our count, so 4-7 days more if the time remains about the same.  But every year is different ....

Equipment is talking nicely to one another at the Radisson, now we are checking that it will talk to the internet ... hope to have a launch date for everyone very very soon.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 28, 2014, 15:42
1540h - Princess is on "mumbrella" duty right now, the box is warm enough the eggs need shade rather than to be kept warm ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: RCF on May 30, 2014, 08:33
Are they going to change the heading on the cam page because it says "Princess and Ivy" ?
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: sparkster on May 30, 2014, 08:37
Princess in the nestbox. What a welcome sight!  :)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: RCF on May 30, 2014, 09:21
I think this is Smiley.  :)

(http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy320/Blondechik_2010/Winnipeg%20Radisson%202014/WinnipegMay302014002.jpg)  (http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy320/Blondechik_2010/Winnipeg%20Radisson%202014/WinnipegMay302014.jpg)

(http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy320/Blondechik_2010/Winnipeg%20Radisson%202014/WinnipegMay302014003.jpg)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: moka on May 30, 2014, 09:23
Great snaps! I too wondered if this was Smiley. He seems too small to be Princess.

We have video ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: RCF on May 30, 2014, 09:25
Are they going to change the heading on the cam page because it says "Princess and Ivy" ?

It's been changed.  :)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Moonstar on May 30, 2014, 10:04
 :)  yay the camera is up.  Can't see it at work but will check it out when I get home.  Greats shots RCF.  :)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Moonstar on May 30, 2014, 10:18
I just checked the CBC site and low and behold I can view the web cam this year at work.  Nice clear picture.  I have no sound tho.  Who knows if I will continue to get it at work tho.  One day I could view Dennis's photo site and then at lunch it was blocked and has been since then at work.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 30, 2014, 11:54
Easy ways to tell Princess and Smiley apart


Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Kinderchick on May 30, 2014, 14:50
Yippee!!! So egg-citing to see the Winnipeg CBC/Shaw falcon cam up for the season! ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: susha on May 30, 2014, 20:56
Heard on "Up to Speed" that the webcam was live ;D  Rushed home to tune in and have checked in every once in awhile all evening to see Princess on the eggs...yawn ::)

Very happy to have the cam ready before the family hatches.  Wonder what kind of dad Smiley will be :-\

Thanks TPC, Dennis and Eye-Spy!

We're ready for another season of wonders...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: susha on May 30, 2014, 21:01
Soooo good to see Princess again.  We are so lucky :-*
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Liz on May 30, 2014, 22:29
 I heard you on CBC Radio - great interview!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: bccs on May 30, 2014, 22:36
Wow, great to know that things are working again. I've missed watching the birdies.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: allikat on May 30, 2014, 22:41
I can't wait to see how Smiley does with chicks!  I'm sure Princess will have her eyes on him!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 31, 2014, 10:51
I can't wait to see how Smiley does with chicks!  I'm sure Princess will have her eyes on him!

At the moment, Smiley has the incubation thing down, well, except when he leaves before Princess arrives, not a real issue, just not what she's used to.  The real test will be how he deals with the increased work load (hunting, hunting and more hunting) when the kids arrive.  He's also a bit bigger than Ivy so he may be able to help out more keeping the kids cool/dry in the first few days after they hatch - there was a point after about day 7 when Ivy couldn't get them all under him, which wasn't so much an issue when they used the nestbox but was an issue on the nestledge.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: GCG on May 31, 2014, 11:41
At this time, nobirdie on the eggs. One egg nearly blends in with the pebbles  ???
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: BirdLover on May 31, 2014, 12:27
Looks like Princess is listening!!!  :)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 31, 2014, 12:27
At this time, nobirdie on the eggs. One egg nearly blends in with the pebbles  ???

That would have been Smiley leaving ... more times than not he's been leaving before Princess arrives.

Don't worry too too much about the colour of the eggs, it's a function of the laying process - it gets "painted" as it travels, sometimes darker, sometimes lighter, sometimes with more splotches, sometimes with less.  Princess has laid lighter coloured egg(s) in the past with no problems.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 31, 2014, 12:29
Looks like Princess is listening!!!  :) 

Could be, the timing is about right ... or she just may not need to be "on" them now, it isn't cool out there right now, even in the shade.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Kinderchick on May 31, 2014, 16:31
Princess sure has been restless this last little while. Can hear her calling out, to Smiley, I imagine. Eggs are alone now. I'm guessing she wants to take a break.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Helen b on May 31, 2014, 16:34
i thought the same or she wants some supper.  oh is he in trouble when he gets back.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: RCF on May 31, 2014, 16:47
I think it was Smiley who left the eggs unattended and now Princess is back on the eggs.  ;)

Smiley
(http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy320/Blondechik_2010/Winnipeg%20Radisson%202014/RadissonMay312014smiley.jpg)

Princess
(http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy320/Blondechik_2010/Winnipeg%20Radisson%202014/RadissonMay312014princess.jpg)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Moonstar on May 31, 2014, 19:58
Camera is up and running.  Familiar names posting.  Just need the eggs to hatch and all will be even better.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 31, 2014, 21:59
2156h - light is just about to go and for those wondering who is on the eggs at the moment, it is Smiley.  Usually the parent on the eggs at 2200h is on until shift change at between 0400h and 0430h.  Usually it is Princess who is on the night shift but perhaps she knows what is coming and is taking a bit of extra time for herself ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 01, 2014, 10:37
Shift change at 2354h last night - Princess came in for the night shift a bit later than usual.  This mornings shift change was right on time 0441h, Smiley came on for early morning and then Princess took over again at 0920h which is a bit earlier than usual if I recall.  She seems to be pretty happy napping on the kids, might be that she doesn't want the afternoon shift which is much warmer though there is a nice breeze in the box so that may make it more comfortable for whomever is on duty.


Weather for Winnipeg

Today, 1 June - Sunny. Becoming a mix of sun and cloud this morning. High 27. UV index 7 or high.   Tonight - Cloudy. Wind becoming east 20 km/h late this evening. Low 15.

the forecast doesn't mention it but the wind is currently East 30 gust 40 km/h - since we can see movement in the box, must be swirling around the top of the building
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: GCG on June 01, 2014, 14:43
 :o :o I don't understand what may be happening. I see at least one, maybe two broken eggshells. It looked as though Smiley? destroyed them/it. TPC, what can you see?   ???

I believe the sun played havoc with what I may have seen. The eggs are now under Mom/Dad. My sincere apologies to all. I await the chicklets.  :-[ :-[  :-X
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 01, 2014, 16:32
no worries GCG, 'tis that time of the year  ;) when everyone worries about the eggs hatching
may be a couple more days (or not) until they hatch, hope everyone can hang in there ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Liz on June 01, 2014, 20:39
Princess sure kicked dad out of the nest!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: moka on June 01, 2014, 20:55
I think I see Smiley on the nest, at present. His head is quite dark and his chest very white; quite a handsome bird.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Kinderchick on June 02, 2014, 09:54
Is that Princess on the eggs right now? :-\ A few light coloured feathers on head of incubating PF. I still have trouble telling these 2 apart. Smiley appears to be almost as big as Princess.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 02, 2014, 09:57
Is that Princess on the eggs right now? :-\ A few light coloured feathers on head of incubating PF. I still have trouble telling these 2 apart. Smiley appears to be almost as big as Princess.

Yes, that is Princess right now and yes, Smiley is bigger than Ivy but still smaller than Princess.  I know, that doesn't make it very much easier for you :)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 02, 2014, 10:01
This is day 32 of incubation for Princess & Smiley.  Last year, Princess' first chick hatched out on day 35 and then because of the bad weather she didn't do any encouraging of her remaining 2 chicks until the rain stopped and they hatched pretty much immediately after that on day 37.  Usually Princess' eggs hatch out between 32 and 35 days so we may have chicks here shortly or it may take a bit longer.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Kinderchick on June 02, 2014, 10:03
Thanks, TPC. :-* I guess if I keep in mind that Smiley's head is all black & Princess has some light coloured feathers on her head, that should help me. Just have to be able to see their heads, though. If they are not facing the webcam & I can only see their tail feathers, it is difficult for me to tell them apart.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Kinderchick on June 02, 2014, 10:06
This is day 32 of incubation for Princess & Smiley.  Last year, Princess' first chick hatched out on day 35 and then because of the bad weather she didn't do any encouraging of her remaining 2 chicks until the rain stopped and they hatched pretty much immediately after that on day 37.  Usually Princess' eggs hatch out between 32 and 35 days so we may have chicks here shortly or it may take a bit longer.

How does Princess go about encouraging her chicks to hatch, TPC? By chirping at the eggs? ???
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Moonstar on June 02, 2014, 10:20
Just saw a shift change.  4 eggs no chicks yet.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 02, 2014, 11:00
This is day 32 of incubation for Princess & Smiley.  Last year, Princess' first chick hatched out on day 35 and then because of the bad weather she didn't do any encouraging of her remaining 2 chicks until the rain stopped and they hatched pretty much immediately after that on day 37.  Usually Princess' eggs hatch out between 32 and 35 days so we may have chicks here shortly or it may take a bit longer.

How does Princess go about encouraging her chicks to hatch, TPC? By chirping at the eggs? ???

She does talk to them and them back to her (or Dad) and the adults spin round with the eggs a lot.  To us it looks like they can't get the eggs in the right place or that they can't get comfortable on/over the eggs.

At the moment Smiley is on the eggs (took over about 1020h) and he's been pretty settled, but he's new so who knows what is going on under him right now ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: RCF on June 02, 2014, 11:21


She does talk to them and them back to her (or Dad) and the adults spin round with the eggs a lot.  To us it looks like they can't get the eggs in the right place or that they can't get comfortable on/over the eggs.



Some call it shuggling the eggs.  :)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 02, 2014, 11:52
She does talk to them and them back to her (or Dad) and the adults spin round with the eggs a lot.  To us it looks like they can't get the eggs in the right place or that they can't get comfortable on/over the eggs.

Some call it shuggling the eggs.  :)

I always think of shuggling as being the more gentle rearranging during incubation than the spinning just before hatching.  Or maybe it is just that the frequency goes up and they seem a bit rougher when I know the babes are about to arrive.  I'll have to watch a little closer ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 02, 2014, 12:03
1157h - Smiley stayed on the eggs until Princess came to relieve him - that's a first.  He was talking to her but she was dead silent coming back into the box and settling down.  Couldn't see any sign of pips on the eggs but often hard to tell in this kind of light (it's overcast outside today).
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Baffled on June 02, 2014, 15:55
How great to come back after ten days without internet to see that the webcam is up and Princess is on the eggs! (well, mostly on the eggs--there was some nest cleaning going on and the eggs were visible every time she leaned forward) Thanks again to the Manitoba Peregrine Falcon Recovery Project and CBC for this excellent and informative opportunity to see nesting birds.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 02, 2014, 21:49
2108h - photo of Princess gathering up her eggs to tuck them in under her for the night ....

(http://www.pbase.com/speciesatrisk/image/155930152/original.jpg)

Finally, Smiley didn't leave the eggs uncovered before Princess arrived to relieve him.  Usually he just takes off and she turns up a couple of minutes later.  Might just be the cooler temps tonight or he's learning or perhaps the chicks are making their presence known ... only time will tell.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Baffled on June 03, 2014, 09:32
Princess has been very restless on the eggs in the last half hour--lots of changing direction, shuggling of the eggs, and nest cleaning.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 03, 2014, 09:50
For those wondering about size when they aren't incubating ....

May 4 (not long after incubation began)                            June 3 (this morning)
(http://www.pbase.com/speciesatrisk/image/155936587/medium.jpg)  (http://www.pbase.com/speciesatrisk/image/155936586/medium.jpg)

Princess is in the top corner, Smiley on the bottom corner.  (Photo on the left is slightly more zoomed in than the one of the right)
You can see there is a difference in body size but not as much as with Ivy.  If you look closer, you can see that Princess has more mass than Smiley and her wings/tail are a bit longer.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 03, 2014, 16:24
1603h - shift change, Smiley off, Princess on.  Smiley didn't leave until she arrived and she usually doesn't like to hang out in the nestbox in the heat of the afternoon unless she has young chicks or soon will have chicks. 
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: mspeach on June 03, 2014, 19:55
Is that a pip on the left egg?
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Jazzerkins on June 03, 2014, 20:26
It looks like one to me.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: susha on June 03, 2014, 21:16
I agree!  I think we might have a chick in the morning :-*
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Moonstar on June 03, 2014, 21:31
I also believe there will be a chick there in the morning.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 04, 2014, 01:00
Rechecked the video right up until the screen went dark and I didn't see anything that looked like hatching or Princess pulling away an eggshell or anything like that ... sorry, we'll just have to wait until tomorrow morning.  I'm sure whoever is "on" pre-dawn will post if they see anything!  ;) ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: GCG on June 04, 2014, 05:17
 :o Just watched a shift change. I hope I am wrong, but I only saw three eggs. TPC, can you check? About 5:14?
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Gingerlee on June 04, 2014, 05:38
5:30 a.m. & I just been watching Princess shuggling the eggs, no broken egg shells so no hatch yet?javascript:void(0); :-\
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Moonstar on June 04, 2014, 06:25
6:23 am
A chick is coming out of an egg.  I could see a wing and the head.  It looked like is was still in the shell.  I only got a brief look and it was wet looking.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: GCG on June 04, 2014, 06:27
 ;D  I saw that too!. Come out little one.  :)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: GCG on June 04, 2014, 06:40
 8) It appears that Princess is having egg(shell) for breakfast.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Sue on June 04, 2014, 06:49
6:45 am Princess giving us a nice view of the first hatching!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Jazzerkins on June 04, 2014, 06:52
Of course, it happened just when I went to take my shower.  I had been watching since 5 AM and then come back to see a little one.  Three more to go.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: RCF on June 04, 2014, 06:56
(http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy320/Blondechik_2010/Winnipeg%20Radisson%202014/RadssonfirsthatchJune42016.jpg)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: RCF on June 04, 2014, 07:11
I can hear muffled chirping plus chirping from the newly hatched chick, so hopefully another hatch very soon.  :-*
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: sparkster on June 04, 2014, 07:25
It's here!  :-*
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: sparkster on June 04, 2014, 07:32
It is beautiful weather for new chicks, and they are protected this year. Whew!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Kinderchick on June 04, 2014, 08:30
Great news about a hatch early this morning! Won't be long now before we see a few more chicks! ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: moka on June 04, 2014, 08:55
Great news! Welcome, little one.  :-*
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Baffled on June 04, 2014, 09:41
Three eggs, one chick (now dry and fluffy) clearly visible when Princess just turned around. The chick is currently in front, just under Princess's chest. Hooray!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: moka on June 04, 2014, 10:53
Princess is looking around, I wonder if she is waiting for Smiley to feed her and the chick...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: sparkster on June 04, 2014, 10:57
I was just going to ask if the little one has been fed yet. Princess was talking awhile ago but I checked and she was alone with the chick and eggs. I hope Smiley brings something soon.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: RCF on June 04, 2014, 10:57
Princess is looking around, I wonder if she is waiting for Smiley to feed her and the chick...

He was in earlier but Princess was just yelling at him and he left. He probably wanted to see the new addition.  :-*
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: mspeach on June 04, 2014, 11:06
When I first opened the screen I could see from Princess's posture there must be a little one underneath.   Waiting to see the first feeding!!   Where is Smiley,  he must be out looking for a fat pigeon!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 04, 2014, 11:23
Videos of hatch and a bit later loaded on our YouTube Channel (www.youtube.com/ThePeregrineChick)

First hatch (0622h) - http://youtu.be/of3G4gCOMSs
Finally Out (0646h) - http://youtu.be/intQ9qNCgbY
No Siblings Yet (0713h) - http://youtu.be/AZ-wFwnS-7U
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 04, 2014, 11:25
Princess is looking around, I wonder if she is waiting for Smiley to feed her and the chick...

He was in earlier but Princess was just yelling at him and he left. He probably wanted to see the new addition.  :-*

We'll have to see how he reacts to new addition - when last he "saw" them they were brown, hard, round & brown not fluffy, squishy & white  ;)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: carly on June 04, 2014, 11:34
Congratulations on your first hatch  :-* :D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: BirdLover on June 04, 2014, 11:56
Just got a great view of the hatchling.  So happy to see that!!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Stormy on June 04, 2014, 12:25
Great to hear about the hatchling!  Looks like another one happening as I type . . . hope Smiley doesn't spook too much.

Has the first chick been fed yet??
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: mspeach on June 04, 2014, 12:40
Very interesting to see Smiley when he first viewed the first chick.   

 "What is this thing???   I think I'll tap it on the head a few times to see what happens, then I'll try to tuck it underneath to keep it warm."
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 04, 2014, 12:45
No meal yet, but Princess is off causing chaos somewhere no doubt ... likely she'll return with a meal. 
And no, it hasn't been a particularly long time between hatch and first meal  :)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: ballywing on June 04, 2014, 12:49
Ah, it's going to be a great season - A first time Dad, Super Pro Mom, Fluffy in the house, and the 'house' being the lovely West Nest!!! Can't ask for better!  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: sparkster on June 04, 2014, 12:56
And no, it hasn't been a particularly long time between hatch and first meal  :)

Thank you for telling us that! It sounds like others might be as anxious as I am about the (non)feeding.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: ballywing on June 04, 2014, 13:06
Hope Smiley isn't such a newbie that he doesn't know what his role is - I'm sure Princess will whip him into shape real quick!  ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 04, 2014, 13:12
He's getting better - he went out to have a little look around and to pick on some pebbles but now he's back.  Guy has a hard time staying on the eggs/chicks past a certain length of time - fortunately, the hardwiring seems to be kicking in and overcoming his natural inclination to wander off.

The air temperature is warm so no worries for the chick if left uncovered for short periods of time.  When the sun comes around however, he or she better keep their butts on the kid to keep him/her cool, it is a warm sunny day today!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 04, 2014, 13:20
Had a look around with the skycam and the spycam and couldn't see Princess in any of her usual spots, but that's not really very unusual, she often sits where we can't see her with the cameras - the towers on top of the building is one of her favourite spots for example ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 04, 2014, 14:49
1448h - okay, now Smiley needs to bring home the bacon/pigeon.  Either that or take over for Princess again so she can go kill something ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: ballywing on June 04, 2014, 14:54
Yikes, come on Smiley!! - The family needs to eat!!  :-\
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 04, 2014, 15:30
Yikes, come on Smiley!! - The family needs to eat!!  :-\

Princess was have a little yakk there, could be she was telling him the exact same thing!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: GCG on June 04, 2014, 15:34
TPC, has there ever been a time in the past when a parent hasn't brought a meal? How long can a chick survive without being fed? Smiley, get it in gear.  >:(
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: ballywing on June 04, 2014, 16:00
Ok just when I thought we'd be doing less fretting this summer - I'm starting to fret!  :-X
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 04, 2014, 16:09
TPC, has there ever been a time in the past when a parent hasn't brought a meal? How long can a chick survive without being fed? Smiley, get it in gear.  >:( 

Actually at 1543h Smiley did turn up on the edge of the box with a meal and he hopped into the box but she wasn't getting off to get it from him (which she did during incubation) so he flew off again ... she's an experienced female, got to believe she knows what she is doing, however ...  :-\
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: GCG on June 04, 2014, 16:10
Ditto!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Kinderchick on June 04, 2014, 16:43
I think it has been about 10 hours now since the 1st chick hatched? Has the chick had a feeding yet? ???
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: ballywing on June 04, 2014, 16:55
No!!!!!  :'(
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: burdi on June 04, 2014, 17:08
I was feeling sad each year Smiley made another long trip back to Winnipeg but not able to find an available mate, then spending his summer alone. Great to see he is now enjoying this exciting new experience  :)  Hopefully he and Princess will adjust well together as we all want the chicks to be provided for, of course.
Thank you to everyone involved in providing this very informative forum and camera.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: RCF on June 04, 2014, 17:26
(http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy320/Blondechik_2010/Winnipeg%20Radisson%202014/WpgRadissonJune42014002.jpg)
(http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy320/Blondechik_2010/Winnipeg%20Radisson%202014/WpgRadissonJune42014003.jpg)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: soaring west on June 04, 2014, 17:43
Mom , just feed the baby and left to have a snack of her own. Dad was trying to sit on the eggs after a few minutes , Mom walked over and replaced him. He is so cute.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: ballywing on June 04, 2014, 18:03
The chick got fed?? - Great!!  ;D ;D  Fretting is over. For now.  :P
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Kinderchick on June 04, 2014, 18:07
Mom , just feed the baby and left to have a snack of her own...
Whew! Glad to hear that, sw. :D I was away from my computer so missed the feeding.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: burdi on June 04, 2014, 18:22
Yes, I saw Smiley bring the prey in  :-*
 ..and Princess quickly fed the chick!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: sparkster on June 04, 2014, 18:24
Oh, thank goodness. I had to stop watching as I thought it was too late for the little one, so I missed it. What a day this has been! :P
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: moka on June 04, 2014, 19:12
Another year, another brood, and it's still as exciting and nail biting, as ever.  :P
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 04, 2014, 19:28
We have been spoiled watching Ivy and Trey provide for their families.  Chicks aren't born hungry, they have been living on the yolk and still do for the first day after hatching.  When they are hungry chicks prompt their parents so our first chick probably happy napping through the day then decided it wanted food which point, s/he got fed.  Would explain Princess waving Smiley off earlier in the day and the couple of shift changes that didn't include any food. 

So all is good folks.

Enjoy this video of first meal - different camera angle = http://youtu.be/2gb_xuEsfTM

WARNING - GRAPHIC (BUT NOT TOO GRAPHIC) VIDEO
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Liz on June 04, 2014, 20:28
Thanks for the video - awesome!  Amazed at how much Princess stuffed down the gullet.  burp
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: sparkster on June 04, 2014, 20:30

Enjoy this video of first meal - different camera angle = http://youtu.be/2gb_xuEsfTM


So cute.  :-* Nice to see the different angle with both parents.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: ballywing on June 04, 2014, 23:59
TEEMING rain!!! Once again - Thank You Princess, for staying off the East Ledge this year! Phew!  8)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 05, 2014, 09:37
June 5

As of 0935h - still 1 chick, 3 eggs

After the rain stopped, Smiley started making pretty regular visits to the nestbox, mostly with food I think through the night = 0148h, 0319h (mealtime I think), 0435h (refused), 0442h (mealtime), 0501h (wo food), 0616h (wo food), 0619h, 0626h (failed handover? or refusal?), 0632h (mealtime), 0850h (meal for Princess, chick napped).

If he gets his pattern regular in some fashion and he manages to figure out what Princess wants for the kids in terms of size & packaging, then Smiley could do very well.  I was having a look back through some of my notes and he seems to be very interested in what Princess is doing with squishy-fluffy which Ivy was as well, but Smiley seems much more interested or attentive.  This an anthropomorphic description but similar behaviour in Ivy preceded his development into a phenomenal provider for his family, so we'll have to see if the same holds true for Smiley.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: dupre501 on June 05, 2014, 10:17
1016h - Feeding time!

Still only one chick and three eggs.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 05, 2014, 11:57
Have added a couple more videos from this morning - www.youtube.com/theperegrinechick
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: moka on June 05, 2014, 12:00
Have just seen another feeding. This little chick seems so much stronger than yesterday. How fast they evolve.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: des on June 05, 2014, 12:19
...with Squishy-fluffy...
Great name/descriptor!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 05, 2014, 12:24
...with Squishy-fluffy...
Great name/descriptor!  

Don't all dads say that about their newborns?  ;)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: RCF on June 05, 2014, 12:53
Looks like another chick is hatching, it's still partly in the shell.  :)   Darn she turned around.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Baffled on June 05, 2014, 12:56
Another hatch!
Princess shuffled around, so the chick is still partly underneath its shell.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 05, 2014, 13:24
Second hatch video for those who can't access the cams or who want to watch it again (and again and again and ...)

http://youtu.be/hTptK_NaiTU
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: moka on June 05, 2014, 13:44
Thanks TPC, that video is precious.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: GCG on June 05, 2014, 13:49
 ;D ;D For sure, another chick has hatched. The view makes this phanatic think there may be a third today. I could be wrong, I have been wrong before. Excitement builds.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Baffled on June 05, 2014, 15:17
Smiley just popped in for a visit, but Princess didn't get off the chicks/eggs.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Kinderchick on June 05, 2014, 15:21
Great news about a 2nd hatch! ;D Wasn't expecting a hatch mid day... Yes, I saw Smiley visiting & might have taken over, had Princess let him. LOL!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Shocka88 on June 05, 2014, 15:23
Disappointed Dad!!   ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: burdi on June 05, 2014, 15:23
June 5

As of 0935h - still 1 chick, 3 eggs

After the rain stopped, Smiley started making pretty regular visits to the nestbox, mostly with food I think through the night = 0148h, 0319h (mealtime I think), 0435h (refused), 0442h (mealtime), 0501h (wo food), 0616h (wo food), 0619h, 0626h (failed handover? or refusal?), 0632h (mealtime), 0850h (meal for Princess, chick napped).

Thank you so much for tracking all these visits, TPC. I was feeling confident about Smiley, but did not expect he would be that attentive so soon! :o

I am very happy for Smiley as a first time Daddy!




Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 05, 2014, 15:27
Looks like chick three appeared at 1325h ... haven't gotten a clear look yet though ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Kinderchick on June 05, 2014, 15:29
So maybe the recent hatching of a 3rd chick is the reason why Princess would not leave the chicks & let Smiley take over for awhile. :-\
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 05, 2014, 15:34
So maybe the recent hatching of a 3rd chick is the reason why Princess would not leave the chicks & let Smiley take over for awhile. :-\

At this stage the only reason she let's "dad" sit with the kids is when she needs to get out to do whatever lady peregrines need to do, then she's back and booting them out again  ;)  Won't last too long and Smiley seems very enthusiastic about helping out ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Kinderchick on June 05, 2014, 15:38
This may sound like a silly question, but here goes anyway... are the females always the ones on the eggs when the chicks are hatching? ???
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 05, 2014, 15:39
This may sound like a silly question, but here goes anyway... are the females always the ones on the eggs when the chicks are hatching? ???

I couldn't say that males have never been on the eggs when hatching but that would be the exception to the rule I believe.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Shocka88 on June 05, 2014, 15:44
Dad was back with another meal but was sent off again!! It would seem that his kids won't go hungry.  :) :)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: mspeach on June 05, 2014, 16:36
Well wouldn't you just know it....I leave for a while and miss two hatchings!!    Thanks TPC for the video.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Baffled on June 05, 2014, 17:12
Feeding time! :D

I saw two chicks and two eggs, but the sunlight was strong, so maybe others can confirm.

Smiley is now getting a turn on the chicks while Princess (most likely) finishes the meal.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Dagny on June 05, 2014, 18:14
I also saw two chicks and two eggs.  Still waiting for the third hatch!   :-\
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: bccs on June 05, 2014, 19:56
7:55 pm, I just saw two chicks and 2 eggs. Both chicks are looking great, Princess is not leaving them and Smiley brings the food. All is well with the world.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: allikat on June 05, 2014, 20:52
Thanks for the update, B!   :)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: ballywing on June 05, 2014, 21:21
Hopefully the final 2 siblings make their appearance tomorrow!!  :D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Liz on June 05, 2014, 21:25
There's a lot of shuggling going on - this is a dedicated parent, babes are completely covered.   :)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: allikat on June 05, 2014, 22:33
Looks like all is normal on the home front! 
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: bccs on June 06, 2014, 07:44
Smiley just arrived without food, Princess got off the nest, Smiley tried to get on and she was having none of that. She went back to the nest and he flew away.
Still two chicks and two eggs.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: bccs on June 06, 2014, 08:21
Smiley is back, this time with food. He's watching Princess feed them, I hope he's taking notes.
( if she ever lets him have a turn  ::) )
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Moonstar on June 06, 2014, 08:40
It is so cute to see both of them in the nest like that.  Smiley does seem to be a great provider.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: sparkster on June 06, 2014, 09:00
Another feeding!  :-*
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: bccs on June 06, 2014, 09:11
Smiley managed about 3 minutes on the chicks and eggs, Princess came back and he left right smartly. Poor guy. :(
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: moka on June 06, 2014, 11:12
Smiley managed about 3 minutes on the chicks and eggs, Princess came back and he left right smartly. Poor guy. :(

Hard to say if he's a poor guy or a very smart bird. Who wants to stand up to the mama bear! ;)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Baffled on June 06, 2014, 11:58
Smiley has come by for a visit.  :D

Princess is not budging off the chick/eggs. :o

ETA: Both parents are sitting quietly together in the nest.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: RCF on June 06, 2014, 12:00
Looks like a Mexican standoff....poor Smiley.  Princess is chupping at him but he's still hanging out.  ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Baffled on June 06, 2014, 12:02
Smiley definitely seems like he's got the instinct to be curious about the chicks and to stand in the nest with them . . . now Princess just needs to give him the chance to try!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: RCF on June 06, 2014, 12:15
Video of Mexican stand off, he stood there for quite a few minutes.  :)

http://youtu.be/0gOLjWpaAdo?t=1m (http://youtu.be/0gOLjWpaAdo?t=1m)

(http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy320/Blondechik_2010/Winnipeg%20Radisson%202014/smiley.jpg)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 06, 2014, 12:49
Princess:  Excuse me but what are you doing?

Smiley:  I can't remember where we put the kids!

(http://www.pbase.com/speciesatrisk/image/155977351/medium.jpg)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: bccs on June 06, 2014, 14:05
Thanks RCF, loved the video.  :-*
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: ballywing on June 06, 2014, 14:26
Awww, poor guy - he just wants his turn!  :-\ Princess sure can be bossy!  :P
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: dupre501 on June 06, 2014, 14:28
TPC & RCF,

I watched this happen live. It was so funny, when he showed up she's yelling at him that he's not needed and he's not leaving, then she settled and still he waited. Then I wasn't sure if he was poking behind her trying to get her off the chicks and eggs so he could take over or if he just wanted to make sure they were still there (status quo). I guess the evil eye she gave him finally sent him away. Hahahaha....
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Moonstar on June 06, 2014, 14:46
Princess is not used to this, having the Dad coming in the nest box and just staying.  Usually the others took off as soon as she squawked.  He is quite persistant.  I like seeing the two of them in there at the same time.

Thanks for the pics and video.  I will have to watch the video when I get home.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: burdi on June 06, 2014, 15:21
RCF, thank you for the video!


TPC, this was funny!

"Princess:  Excuse me but what are you doing?

Smiley:  I can't remember where we put the kids!"


I guess the evil eye she gave him finally sent him away. Hahahaha....

Dupre, yes, I think his cue to leave was when she fully opened her eyes near the end!  Poor Smiley...  hope he will soon get a chance.


Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: burdi on June 06, 2014, 15:55

I see a feeding going on right now.
Hope Princess might take a much needed break!

Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: moka on June 06, 2014, 15:56
I was watching it too, burdi. It was a long feeding session. Their little crops were so full that you could see the flesh between the fluff. I'm surprised they could still keep their heads up.  :P
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: soaring west on June 06, 2014, 16:08
Dad was so cute with the kids. Princess comes home much to fast for him.   lol
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: RCF on June 06, 2014, 18:43
Video of earlier feed by skygirlblue from BCAW   :)

http://youtu.be/KFlfZpCfIIw (http://youtu.be/KFlfZpCfIIw)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Liz on June 06, 2014, 20:08
I thought it looked like there might be another egg cracking, but maybe she's just letting some breeze cool off her bottom!  :D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: bccs on June 06, 2014, 20:30
Smiley just popped in for a visit, Princess was not amused.
I'm really beginning to love this guy.  ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 06, 2014, 20:32
Smiley just popped in for a visit, Princess was not amused.
I'm really beginning to love this guy.  ;D

He's definitely got personality - think he knows he's on-camera?
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: bccs on June 06, 2014, 20:36
Smiley just popped in for a visit, Princess was not amused.
I'm really beginning to love this guy.  ;D

He's definitely got personality - think he knows he's on-camera?
Nope, I just think he is a guy of the new-age that really wants to be a huge part of the family.
Look out Princess, you've never met (or was intimate) with this type of guy before.

Smiley, keep on doing it, I'm sooooo on your side.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: allikat on June 06, 2014, 20:42
I agree!
He is very different from what miss, (uh fill in the blank here), Princess is used to for a mate.
This is great! 
Maybe this is why she is more "relaxed" this year, well..."relaxed", may be pushing it, more calm?   :-\
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Liz on June 06, 2014, 20:48
We all relax as we get old! And she's no spring chicken.  It should make him into a good dad, tho - like Trey. 
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: bccs on June 06, 2014, 20:49
I agree!
He is very different from what miss, (uh fill in the blank here), Princess is used to for a mate.
This is great!  
Maybe this is why she is more "relaxed" this year, well..."relaxed", may be pushing it, more calm?   :-\
Not sure about calm Alli, but I think she is becoming resigned to the fact that she no longer has a kow towing mate.   Yee haw, a new generation of birdies that break the rules..... love it.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: allikat on June 06, 2014, 21:00
Yeah....I figured calm was also pushing it.
How about, just different, in a good way.
I like it, as it certainly has been entertaining to watch her Royal Highness all these years, with different mates.
I find it so interesting how even raptors/birds change their behavior, habits, body positions, etc...It's very intriguing and captivating.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: bccs on June 06, 2014, 21:07
Yep Allie, you are right, a good way and a different way.
Kind of like watching the 60's. So many changes, so may different life paths.
Huge changes that make us step back and go Wow.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Liz on June 06, 2014, 21:58
The birds in the park outside my window have been sending loud, frantic chirps for about 30 mins.  Too dark for me to see if it's a PF. 
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: RCF on June 07, 2014, 07:28
Breakfast time.......looks like two chicks and two eggs still this morning.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Moonstar on June 07, 2014, 09:13
It has been a couple days since the last hatch.  Is it still possible for the 2 remaining eggs to hatch? 
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: bev. on June 07, 2014, 09:51
yes, it is . just not ideal . they have been know to hatch 7 days from first to last. At bell last year, 6 days between first hatch and last hatch and 4 days between first hatch and 3rd hatch

Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Baffled on June 07, 2014, 11:53
Feeding time!
Two chicks, two eggs.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: burdi on June 07, 2014, 14:12
I possibly saw Princess return with food this morning, think it was just before 11:00 but was in a rush so could be wrong.

I’m guessing Smiley is probably exhausted from trying to fetch food and guard his family over the last few nights. When he is on the eggs, it appears he nervously watches for Princess to return, only to quickly boot him out again!

Hopefully if allowed sufficient time with the chicks he might be able to relax better... and possibly even catch a nap.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: ballywing on June 07, 2014, 14:47
I just wish the 2 unhatched chickies would come out!!!!  :-\
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: moka on June 07, 2014, 15:36
I just wish the 2 unhatched chickies would come out!!!!  :-\

Totally agree, ballywing. :-\
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: des on June 07, 2014, 15:42
Feeding time!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: burdi on June 07, 2014, 15:51
I just wish the 2 unhatched chickies would come out!!!!  :-\

Totally agree, ballywing. :-\

Yes, I wish they would hatch too!
Princess certainly does!
And Smiley!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: burdi on June 07, 2014, 15:56
yes, it is . just not ideal . they have been know to hatch 7 days from first to last. At bell last year, 6 days between first hatch and last hatch and 4 days between first hatch and 3rd hatch

Perhaps this post from bev may help us all think positive!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Jo on June 07, 2014, 21:14
Got my first glimpse of the chicks this year - very very cute. I may have just missed a feeding as they were being tucked under parent.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 07, 2014, 21:39
Got my first glimpse of the chicks this year - very very cute. I may have just missed a feeding as they were being tucked under parent.

If you want to watch meal videos, please do visit the Project on YouTube - www.youtube.com/theperegrinechick
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: susha on June 07, 2014, 21:56
TPC, any thoughts about the two unhatched eggs?
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 07, 2014, 22:23
TPC, any thoughts about the two unhatched eggs?

I'm starting to lean toward they won't hatch but these birds do like to keep us guessing ... not much of an answer, sorry.  :)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Kinderchick on June 07, 2014, 22:24
I believe last year, 1 chick died shortly after hatching, due to the nasty weather, 1 egg was not viable & 2 chicks hatched & fledged successfully. So I guess it's just "wait & see" now. :-\
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: allikat on June 07, 2014, 22:33
I'm going with, two chicks is better than none.
If the remaining eggs hatch, an absolutely wonderful thing of beauty.
But, for the reasons unexplained by nature, we were only meant to have two chicks, well, they are nature's gift.
There are a lot of variables with a new mate this year, and, Princess is getting up there in age.  
But, I'm also writing this with no expertise, so, not sure...
I'll take two adorable chicks, no matter which way it goes!   :)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Moonstar on June 08, 2014, 07:39
I agree with alli.  :)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: bccs on June 08, 2014, 09:12
Breakfast at 9:00. When Princess left with the carcass, Smiley flew in, had a good look at the chicks, tried to get on them but Princess flew back and chased him out.
I love Smiley's persistence.   ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Helen b on June 08, 2014, 11:38
just saw another feeding, not sure but was there 3 chicks, looked like Princess was feeding a little one in the front but could be wrong, she might have just been cleaning her beak.  love watching the feedings.
 :)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Liz on June 08, 2014, 11:52
I thought I saw three too, but then decided it was just an open beak.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 08, 2014, 11:54
Went back to check the video and just two chicks during the last meal I'm afraid.  Interestingly, when I checked another camera angle, I saw Princess doing something with one of the eggs, like picking at the shell - I don't think it was just the surface.  Could be we have another hatch on the way or maybe the egg is non-viable ... Princess has always been difficult about keeping her back to the cameras, no different this year!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Liz on June 08, 2014, 12:28
I hope you're right about that egg!  I noticed she's definitely intent on keeping them warm, as she's still tucking them in after feeding. 
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: susha on June 08, 2014, 12:34
And she seems to be shuggling and moving and maybe encouraging... ???

Maybe just wishful thinking...

We'll all be happy with whatever we get ;)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 08, 2014, 12:35
I love Smiley's persistence.   ;D  

When he brings in food - take a look at it, so far it looks mostly like large passerines though it is hard to tell what exactly.  Noot sure I have seen a pigeon in the bunch and I'm not sure there have been any/many shorebirds either - he likes to leave the legs on and I'm not sure I've seen shorebird-long legs.  Not sure where he's hunting but he's persistent about his choice of prey as well.  They may be smaller than Princess may want at this point but they aren't easier to catch so point definitely in his favour!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: burdi on June 08, 2014, 13:22
I also noticed the different type of prey coming in and have not seen one pigeon so far, was wondering what the new prey was, and what happened to the pigeons.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Liz on June 08, 2014, 13:32
Daddy don't bring home no kd!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: burdi on June 08, 2014, 14:32
Daddy don't bring home no kd!

Hmmm... interesting, seems to be very particular! 

For sure, a classy kinda Dad! ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: bccs on June 08, 2014, 14:35
Still 2 chicks, two eggs.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 08, 2014, 14:43
1441h - Princess is talking and I can see a chick head over her shoulder so I think there has been a formal request made to Smiley to bring home the whatever-he-wishes-to-catch for a mid-afternoon snack.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Liz on June 08, 2014, 14:44
#3 on the way!  Or is that the funny colouring you mentioned before?
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: bccs on June 08, 2014, 14:50
Bahahaha, Smiley brought in food for Princess, he went away and came back with some more food and tried to feed the kids.
Princess stole the food from him, chastised him and now he's gone.
Seems that Smiley is quite crafty and very, very smart.  ;D
Love him :-*
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 08, 2014, 14:54
#3 on the way!  Or is that the funny colouring you mentioned before?

No, I think that is a hole in the egg - and likely the hole that Princess was playing with earlier this morning - will have to see if that is the start of another chick or a damaged egg ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: sparkster on June 08, 2014, 14:54
Oh, dear. One of the chicks fell over onto its back and can't get up.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: sparkster on June 08, 2014, 14:55
It's all good. It's back up and eating again. It is not easy, being a baby peregrine falcon.  ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Liz on June 08, 2014, 14:57
TPC, would she know by now (this far along) if that egg isn't viable?  I see she's still tucking it under. 
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: bccs on June 08, 2014, 14:57
For the past few feedings, Princess has not flown away with the carcass. I guess she's figured out that when she leaves Smiley moves in for a turn with the kids.   ::)
That is going to be one smelly nest box.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Kinderchick on June 08, 2014, 14:58
...I think that is a hole in the egg - and likely the hole that Princess was playing with earlier this morning - will have to see if that is the start of another chick or a damaged egg ...

It does look to me like a hole in the 3rd egg. So we'll just have to wait & see, I guess.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Liz on June 08, 2014, 15:17
The sun is shining downtown but there's lots of loud thunder!  Sounds like a storm coming. 
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Saoirse on June 08, 2014, 15:22
The sun is shining downtown but there's lots of loud thunder!  Sounds like a storm coming. 

With a storm coming, it's so good to know that Princess and Smiley were smart enough to choose the nest box -- that little roof makes such a difference!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: moka on June 08, 2014, 15:53
In past years, Princess seems to have discarded an unviable egg, quite early on.

TPC, do you think she hears chicks in the shell? Is that why she is still brooding them?
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: bccs on June 08, 2014, 16:14
First poop shot by a chick, it made me laugh out loud. ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 08, 2014, 16:43
Bccs asked for video of The Theft be posted .... one theft, two views

Part 1 - http://youtu.be/KAGxF7mHA0s

Part 2 - http://youtu.be/pVLX841bvUs
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: bccs on June 08, 2014, 16:49
Bccs asked for video of The Theft be posted .... one theft, two views

Part 1 - http://youtu.be/KAGxF7mHA0s

Part 2 - http://youtu.be/pVLX841bvUs

Thanks for doing this Tracy and the other view is a bonus. ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Liz on June 08, 2014, 16:50
The broken egg is moving...

Nope, I take that back.  Sorry for the false alarm. 
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: bccs on June 08, 2014, 16:52
Some rumbling and grumbling of thunder right now. Rain in the south east end and the clouds are moving that way. Lots of sunshine in the north west.
Downtown is dry.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 08, 2014, 17:00
Thanks for doing this Tracy and the other view is a bonus. ;D

You are welcome  :)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: bccs on June 08, 2014, 17:03
Princess is off the chicks and eggs and having a snack from one of the carcasses. the kids are asleep.
Oops, not a carcass, the great provider brought a tender morsel for the kids and they are devouring it.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Moonstar on June 08, 2014, 17:40
Thanks for doing this Tracy and the other view is a bonus. ;D

You are welcome  :)

Thanks for the video's.  Poor Smiley.  He only wants to do his fair share and Princess won't let him.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Liz on June 08, 2014, 17:44
I'm afraid that egg is toast.   :( 
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: ballywing on June 08, 2014, 17:50
Wow, Princess took off for a break and so far Smiley's had over 5 minutes with the kids!  ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: bccs on June 08, 2014, 17:51
Smiley is on the chicks and eggs, 6 minutes and counting.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Liz on June 08, 2014, 17:53
He had about the same amount of time on them yesterday too.  Glad she's relaxing!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: bccs on June 08, 2014, 17:55
Poor guy, he's constantly looking over his shoulder. Bet he's looking for Princess and is ready to bolt.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: bccs on June 08, 2014, 17:56
And she's back and he's gone.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Kinderchick on June 08, 2014, 18:01
I'm afraid that egg is toast.   :( 

Unfortunately, I think you may be right, Liz. :(
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: bccs on June 08, 2014, 18:04
Holy moley, I posted too soon, it's still Smiley on the kids. :o :o
Way to go dude.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: burdi on June 08, 2014, 18:17
I often hear Princess talking to the chicks while she is holding food in her mouth, as well as feeding them. She isn’t the only peregrine that calls their chicks when feeding, but I think her ability to carry on and on while feeding is quite a talent!




Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: bccs on June 08, 2014, 18:19
Princess just came back with a meal, Smiley on the chicks - 1/2 hour plus.
Yay, things are balancing out.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Liz on June 08, 2014, 18:21
I often hear Princess talking to the chicks while she is holding food in her mouth, as well as feeding them. She isn’t the only peregrine that calls their chicks when feeding, but I think her ability to carry on and on while feeding is quite a talent!
I love listening to her chat to them too!  :D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Liz on June 08, 2014, 18:26
TPC, Princess is 12 -- is that closing in on infertility time for a female PF? 
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 08, 2014, 18:38
Smiley is hanging out on the box edge ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: burdi on June 08, 2014, 18:43
Any chance viewers of the Radisson would have an online option to enable switching between a ‘Nestbox View’ or ‘Ledge View’ Cam, TPC?  Would sure be nice to see what is happening on the ledge, and during the night there is added help from the street lights! I’ve seen this on some other live cams. Maybe out of our reach, but just wondering.




Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 08, 2014, 19:02
TPC, Princess is 12 -- is that closing in on infertility time for a female PF? 

Mortality drops off significantly after year one so that average lifespan has been reported at about 16 years.  But as you can tell from watching all the webcams, lots of birds aren't resident breeding birds for all that time.  As for an individual bird's fertility, I'm afraid I can't tell you.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Liz on June 08, 2014, 19:50
Another feeding time!  :D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: allikat on June 08, 2014, 20:06
Really like this Smiley!  He's a keeper!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: bccs on June 09, 2014, 10:46
I totally agree.
Nice to be able to see them again.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 09, 2014, 10:47
We missed a feeding while the cam was out ... Smiley brought home KD - actually Smiley brought home the ENTIRE HUMONGOUS INTACT KD - Princess almost couldn't drag it into/across the box and then after feeding the kids still almost couldn't drag it back out of the box!!  ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: bccs on June 09, 2014, 10:50
That's our Smiley, what a great Dad. And a quick learner.  ;D ;D
Still two chicks and two eggs Tracy?
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: bccs on June 09, 2014, 11:00
She's off the nest and is giving us a nice close up of herself.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 09, 2014, 11:15
Still two chicks and two eggs Tracy? 

Two chicks yes, but I don't know about the eggs.  Even going through the recording, its almost like they were there one minute and gone the next while Princess was on them (before her little housecleaning near the camera).  Might be they are on the far side of the chicks or it may have been that she finally broke them up ... just have to wait and see I'm afraid ... keep your eyes open folks ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 09, 2014, 11:28
1128h - not often it is quiet enough to hear baby peregrines talking ... very cool
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: dupre501 on June 09, 2014, 11:30
Looks like one of the eggs has been moved to the wall, furthest away from the camera.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Kinderchick on June 09, 2014, 12:03
Cozy little chicks are doing a huddle cuddle. :)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: dupre501 on June 09, 2014, 12:09
(http://i1250.photobucket.com/albums/hh538/dupre501/2014%20public/2014-06-09chicksv2.jpg)

Could be discarded egg or shell.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: bccs on June 09, 2014, 13:43
Smiley just got off the nest - two chicks, two eggs. I guess the one in doubt was an old shell.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: moka on June 09, 2014, 13:58
Saw them for a long time, what a treat!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: bccs on June 09, 2014, 14:11
Saw them for a long time, what a treat!
It sure was Moka.

Princess brought in food, Smiley skedaddled, the kids got LOTS of food, Princess took away the remains, Smiley rushed in and sat on the kids, she came back and chased him away.
All is right in the Radisson peregrine nest box.  ;D

Smiley sure talks to the kids a lot when he is on the nest. Way more than Princess.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: GCG on June 09, 2014, 14:29
When given a chance, Smiley is incredible! He is  8)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: bccs on June 09, 2014, 14:55
Smiley's on again and has been for about 1/2 hour.
Looks like Princess is relaxing about his skills.
He's alert and watching everything.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: burdi on June 09, 2014, 15:06
Smiley sure talks to the kids a lot when he is on the nest. Way more than Princess.

Awww - what a sweet Daddy!

Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: bccs on June 09, 2014, 15:56
It must be a tad warm in the nest box right now. Smiley is on the chicks and eggs and is doing a little open beak panting.
He's had a lot of nest time today and is proving himself to be a great parent.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: moka on June 09, 2014, 16:44
It must be a tad warm in the nest box right now. Smiley is on the chicks and eggs and is doing a little open beak panting.
He's had a lot of nest time today and is proving himself to be a great parent.

He sure is bccs. For all her snarkyness, Princess has chosen great males, Trey, Ivy and now Smiley.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: bccs on June 09, 2014, 16:48
For a first time Dad, this guy is amazing. He's been on the nest for a couple of hours now. He is hovering, not sitting on the chicks, he has his back to the sun so the kids aren't exposed to the direct sun and they are not too hot.
Hardwiring kicking in at it's finest.

Smiley, you rock.  ;D

For anyone who is interested, I have discovered a sure fire way to distinguish Princess and Smiley when all you can see is the back of them.

Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: bccs on June 09, 2014, 16:51
It must be a tad warm in the nest box right now. Smiley is on the chicks and eggs and is doing a little open beak panting.
He's had a lot of nest time today and is proving himself to be a great parent.

He sure is bccs. For all her snarkyness, Princess has chosen great males, Trey, Ivy and now Smiley.
Yup Moka.

Trey was great for his tidiness and devotion to the chicks, Ivy, wow, nobody went hungry -ever!

Smiley, well enough said, I am in love with him.  ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: bccs on June 09, 2014, 17:20
Feeding time. If you have sound, you can hear Princess talk to them while she feeds them.
I'd love to get a grant to study these sounds, as a lot of them are repetitive but different in sequence and the kids respond to the different chups.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Dagny on June 09, 2014, 17:22
It looks to me as if there is one egg with the chicks and one over by the back wall.  I'm using Safari.  Does anyone see it better?
 ???

OK, Princess moved, now it looks more like 2 eggs with the chicks.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: bccs on June 09, 2014, 17:28
It looks to me as if there is one egg with the chicks and one over by the back wall.  I'm using Safari.  Does anyone see it better?
 ???

OK, Princess moved, now it looks more like 2 eggs with the chicks.

Hey Dagny,

Two chicks an two eggs. The one by the back wall is a shell from one of the hatched chicks.

Bccs
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: bccs on June 09, 2014, 17:31
Smiley is back on the chicks and eggs after the feeding.  ;D ;D
In all these years, I have never seen Princess step back so much from the nest so soon.
Wow, wonder what this means?    ???
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Dagny on June 09, 2014, 17:32
Hey Dagny,

Two chicks an two eggs. The one by the back wall is a shell from one of the hatched chicks.

Bccs

Thanks, Bccs.  This is only my second year of observing and I obviously have a lot to learn.   :-\

Dagny
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: bccs on June 09, 2014, 17:37
Hey Dagny,

It doesn't take long to learn, Just keep up with the posts of the old timers.
That's how I did it. And these people have a wealth of knowledge that they are most happy to share.
The members of the forum are great, and most willing to help out.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: bccs on June 09, 2014, 17:45
Big Daddy Smiley is minding the kids right now. ;D
He's had a great day with them, thanks Princess.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Liz on June 09, 2014, 20:00
the chicks sure have plumped up in the last 24 hours!  And I agree, Smiley is doing a great job.  He's funny to watch this evening.  :) 
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Helen b on June 09, 2014, 20:14
 :(mom just removed the damaged egg from the nest. 
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: bccs on June 09, 2014, 20:47
What a great day! Smiley has been on the nest very often today and for long periods of time.
And he's there again.
I've been able to watch a lot in the last few days, and have been lucky enough to spot a big difference between the adults on the nest when we can't see their heads or breasts and can only see their backs.

Anybody want to know???   ;D ;D

(Actually there are two differences)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Liz on June 09, 2014, 20:48
:(mom just removed the damaged egg from the nest. 

Oh no!  I missed that.  But I guess it's not likely either one will hatch.   :( 
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: bccs on June 09, 2014, 20:51
Whoa, something just alerted Smiley and he's off the chicks.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: bccs on June 09, 2014, 20:54
Awww, he's back again and being so gentle and careful with the kiddies.
Princess, you really lucked in with this guy.  ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: sparkster on June 09, 2014, 20:58
I've been able to watch a lot in the last few days, and have been lucky enough to spot a big difference between the adults on the nest when we cant see their heads or breasts and can only see their backs.

Anybody want to know???   ;D ;D

(Actually there are two differences)

Absolutely! Please tell us. I think Princess looks wider, and kind of "hunkers down" over the chicks, but I could be completely wrong.  :-\
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: bccs on June 09, 2014, 21:10
Yahoo, Smiley is on the nest again.
If any body wants to know the subtle differences between the big guy and the queen , pm me.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: allikat on June 09, 2014, 22:34
Yahoo, Smiley is on the nest again.
If any body wants to know the subtle differences between the big guy and the queen , pm me.
It's quite the study!!!  Well done B!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 10, 2014, 02:03
There a few ways to tell Princess from Smiley (other than her personality), not always fool-proof depending on light, location & how their feathers are sitting ... however, here are a couple of things to look for if you are so inclined ...


Anyone else have other distinguishing characteristics to share?
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: bccs on June 10, 2014, 06:03
Okay, here's what I have observed.
When the birds are on the chicks, Smiley has his left wing tip over his right. Princess is just the opposite, right over left.
Princess hunkers down while on the nest, Smiley is more upright, sort of like an on guard pose.
When you can see them face on, Smiley's malar stripes appear squared off and rectangular while Princess's are more rounded.

Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: birdcamfan on June 10, 2014, 06:04
TPC, Thanks, that's what I call an in-depth description. You're attention to detail could teach our news media a few lessons!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: moka on June 10, 2014, 07:51
For a first time Dad, this guy is amazing. He's been on the nest for a couple of hours now. He is hovering, not sitting on the chicks, he has his back to the sun so the kids aren't exposed to the direct sun and they are not too hot.
Hardwiring kicking in at it's finest.

Smiley, you rock.  ;D

For anyone who is interested, I have discovered a sure fire way to distinguish Princess and Smiley when all you can see is the back of them.

It's like waiting for the other shoe to drop... tell us!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: bccs on June 10, 2014, 07:54
Moka, go back two posts, it's there.  ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Sue on June 10, 2014, 09:17
Well, that was interesting.  Chicks left alone briefly and start complaining, both adults arrive and have a "conversation", then Smiley takes off and Princess settles on the chicks. Very different sounds from the two adults.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Saoirse on June 10, 2014, 11:20
Thanks a million, TPC! I haven't spent as much time observing this year, will be glad of the detailed descriptions, particularly of Smiley. I like to think I'd be able to recognize Princess, but . . .   ::)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: des on June 10, 2014, 12:19
Thanks for all the tips on IDing Smiley and Princess.
Terrific!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: moka on June 10, 2014, 17:21
Moka, go back two posts, it's there.  ;D

Well, duhhhhh :-[ I was sure you hadn't answered, yet.  :-[

Thanks everyone, for your patience. I'm getting old like Princess.  :P
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Kinderchick on June 10, 2014, 17:35
There a few ways to tell Princess from Smiley (other than her personality), not always fool-proof depending on light, location & how their feathers are sitting ...

Great to have all those tips on IDing the difference between Princess & Smiley... The 2 chicks sure are growing up fast. I guess the other 2 eggs weren't viable. Still, good to have 2 hatches, at least. And hopefully, they will be banded, given that they have nested in the west nest box where TPC, Dr. Bob & Dennis can access them. :)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Liz on June 10, 2014, 18:39
All I can see right now is a pile of fluff!  What's the scoop on the eggs?
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Kinderchick on June 10, 2014, 19:33
Don't see either of the unhatched eggs so I guess they've both been removed from the nest. :-\
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Liz on June 10, 2014, 20:29
Tks, KC.   :(
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Kinderchick on June 10, 2014, 20:42
Hmmm... now I think I see an egg near the chicks, Liz. Weird. Couldn't see it before. Pretty certain it's not going to hatch, though. :(
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: susha on June 10, 2014, 20:42
I cannot believe how big those chicks have gotten in 24 hours!!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: allikat on June 10, 2014, 20:46
Thanks for all the reports today, B.
Interesting observation about the wing location and body positioning.
I will look for that.
This Smiley is a pretty male... Fitting in quite well.
Can't wait for the next few weeks!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: burdi on June 10, 2014, 21:04

Well this is a treat. Princess is not hiding the chicks while feeding!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: RCF on June 10, 2014, 21:15

Well this is a treat. Princess is not hiding the chicks while feeding!

Short feed video -  http://youtu.be/DtE0geFJKrA (http://youtu.be/DtE0geFJKrA) 

(http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy320/Blondechik_2010/Winnipeg%20Radisson%202014/winnipeg.jpg)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: moka on June 11, 2014, 08:35
Thanks RCF, they are sturdy and beautiful.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: GCG on June 11, 2014, 14:09
 :-* Aww, so cute, so sweet. Sleeping on their own. I am seeing my first faceplant of this season. So much to look forward to, growth, poopshoots, more faceplants and let's not forget....buttscoots  ;)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: ballywing on June 11, 2014, 18:43
BAH!! -Princess, you make a better door than a window!!! Nice evening snack and can't see one bit of the feeding or the chicks - just Princess' butt  :-\
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Moonstar on June 12, 2014, 10:09
BAH!! -Princess, you make a better door than a window!!! Nice evening snack and can't see one bit of the feeding or the chicks - just Princess' butt  :-\

It is almost like she knows there is a camera there.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: sparkster on June 12, 2014, 12:23
There was a cute exchange between Smiley and the chicks a few minutes ago. It looked as if they thought he was going to feed them, and he touched beaks with them in a "pretend feed" manner. That is what it looked like, anyway. Perhaps someone saw the beginning of it and he actually did have food.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: mwhelan on June 12, 2014, 13:11
Good thing the chicks are mostly okay on their own now since Dad seems so easily distracted by house keeping at times...... ::)

Got a lovely close up though.  Smiley is one handsome peregrine!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: moka on June 12, 2014, 18:49
Good thing the chicks are mostly okay on their own now since Dad seems so easily distracted by house keeping at times...... ::)

Got a lovely close up though.  Smiley is one handsome peregrine!

He surely is one handsome bird.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Moonstar on June 12, 2014, 21:05
I think Smiley is there now and the chicks want food but he does not have any.  The chicks keep reaching up to his beak for food.  It looks so cute.  He is just sitting there and looking at them.  Would be a nice picture but I don't know how to capture one.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: susha on June 12, 2014, 21:57
I'm sorry that the other two eggs didn't hatch, but at this moment, Smiley looks so relaxed and comfortable, perfectly cuddling his two little kids :-* 
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: allikat on June 12, 2014, 22:33
Hard to see who is on the little ones right now, but from size, looks like Princess?
Heard a little chatting in the dark to the two babes, and now the light is fading...
Night night sweethearts! 
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: newchick on June 13, 2014, 05:45
I'm sorry that the other two eggs didn't hatch, but at this moment, Smiley looks so relaxed and comfortable, perfectly cuddling his two little kids :-* 

TPC--Would this be due to Princess's age? or just environmental, or just because it can happen?
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 13, 2014, 09:25
I'm sorry that the other two eggs didn't hatch, but at this moment, Smiley looks so relaxed and comfortable, perfectly cuddling his two little kids :-* 

TPC--Would this be due to Princess's age? or just environmental, or just because it can happen?

Hard to know for sure.  Could be environmental, she does migrate so gets to sample prey from lots of locales.  Could be her age, she is 12 but that isn't over the hill yet or it could just be this year with one suitor, then a fight then a new suitor she wasn't going to produce 4 viable eggs.

Another possibility is all 4 eggs were viable but only 2 of the chicks were strong enough to hatch out.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 13, 2014, 09:29
For those unable to watch the webcam (sorry, we forget about you all sometimes). 

Chicks had one of their breakfasts just over an hour ago and Smiley's been hanging out with the kids ever since.  A quiet morning in the box ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: moka on June 13, 2014, 09:56
Amazing how much they've grown.

With Smiley being a new dad, maybe having only two chicks, will ease the work and make sure our chicks are good and strong before they fledge.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: GCG on June 13, 2014, 10:28
The chicks have grown so fast. They have decided they want to become interior designers. Tha walls now have murals. So much to look forward to. Smiley is indeed a good father.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: dupre501 on June 13, 2014, 10:40
Feeding time - 1035h
(http://i1250.photobucket.com/albums/hh538/dupre501/2014%20public/201406131035h.jpg)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: birdcamfan on June 13, 2014, 14:22
I'm sorry that the other two eggs didn't hatch, but at this moment, Smiley looks so relaxed and comfortable, perfectly cuddling his two little kids :-* 

TPC--Would this be due to Princess's age? or just environmental, or just because it can happen?

Hard to know for sure.  Could be environmental, she does migrate so gets to sample prey from lots of locales.  Could be her age, she is 12 but that isn't over the hill yet or it could just be this year with one suitor, then a fight then a new suitor she wasn't going to produce 4 viable eggs.

Another possibility is all 4 eggs were viable but only 2 of the chicks were strong enough to hatch out.
So these chicks could be from "pre-Smiley"? Could it be that he is not quite ready to make babies but has been able to figure out what he needs to do to be helpful, or perhaps the stress of a fight stopped the embryo development of his chicks at a critical stage?
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 13, 2014, 16:38
So these chicks could be from "pre-Smiley"? Could it be that he is not quite ready to make babies but has been able to figure out what he needs to do to be helpful, or perhaps the stress of a fight stopped the embryo development of his chicks at a critical stage? 

No, these eggs are definitely Smiley's, the timing doesn't work for Hart ... and Smiley is old enough, he's five years old, Hart at only two was more of a question mark for us this year, but that too didn't seem to be a problem. 

As for Princess' fight, it is possible, she certainly looked worse for wear and she hung out in the nestbox for a couple of nights which isn't something she does often but that was likely her making sure no one could slip in after hours so to speak.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Kinderchick on June 13, 2014, 19:09
Just out of curiosity, TPC, are eggs that are referred to as non viable, eggs that have actually not been fertilized? ???
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: sparkster on June 13, 2014, 19:44
As for Princess' fight, it is possible, she certainly looked worse for wear and she hung out in the nestbox for a couple of nights which isn't something she does often but that was likely her making sure no one could slip in after hours so to speak.

I am glad that Princess recovered from the incident.

TPC - do you have any idea who fought with Princess?
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Liz on June 13, 2014, 20:11
...you make a better door than a window!!!
It's been feeding time for awhile but again, we have a door not a window.  MOVE OVER!  ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 13, 2014, 21:47
Just out of curiosity, TPC, are eggs that are referred to as non viable, eggs that have actually not been fertilized? ???

I use non-viable for both infertile and did not hatch for whatever reason - didn't develop, didn't develop enough, chick died in the egg, etc.  Technically I believe eggs that don't hatch are either infertile or non-viable.  Since we don't candle eggs and rarely get our hands on eggs (and don't make the specific effort to retrieve eggs) non-viable is for me the term I prefer because I don't know if they are technically infertile or non-viable.  A bit like no news is good news - all the eggs are viable until the parent destroys it or flies it out of the box.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 13, 2014, 22:03
TPC - do you have any idea who fought with Princess? 

Not a clue, Beatrix was around but we didn't see her downtown and when I saw her during the day she was calm and totally untouched.  Beatrix has been stapled to West Winnipeg since she came back into town, rarely did we not see her at/near the nestsite.  So no, not Beatrix and not Joli either, she didn't arrive home for another 5 days.  No Smiley either.  At that time Beau and Beatrix were involved in serious hanky-panky in West Winnipeg and Hart and Princess were the only birds in town and they were both at the Radisson and he was courting her.  No other birds on the cameras, no other unidentified birds seen around town either.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Kinderchick on June 14, 2014, 12:17
So glad to see the chicks nice & dry in the covered west nest box. Supposed to rain all weekend in Winnipeg. I wonder why the other egg is still there? ??? I thought the parents typically remove the unhatched eggs.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 14, 2014, 14:18
I wonder why the other egg is still there? ??? I thought the parents typically remove the unhatched eggs.

They will when they are ready to, or not.
Chicks will be old enough to thermoregulate, if egg still there, likely will get rolled to one side and ignored if not removed.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Liz on June 14, 2014, 18:42
As I passed the Radisson this afternoon, as it was pouring rain, and was again glad Princess chose the nestbox over the nestledge.   :D 
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Liz on June 14, 2014, 18:52
Beatrix was getting hammered, now it's drenching rain downtown.  We can see the water dripping on the left side.  (Is there a 'raincoat' emoticon?  ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Feather2Fin on June 14, 2014, 19:13
TPC - just a reminder there was another female that was hanging around not too far away from the Radisson in the Osborne Village area.  I saw a pair of unidentified falcons over Wellington Cres. a two or three weeks ago. She may still be in the area.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 14, 2014, 21:36
TPC - just a reminder there was another female that was hanging around not too far away from the Radisson in the Osborne Village area.  I saw a pair of unidentified falcons over Wellington Cres. a two or three weeks ago. She may still be in the area.

Thanks F2F

On the Crescent birds could be any of our Winnipeg birds and too close to be another nesting pair, so just birds on the move.  All our birds hunt over the rivers, waterfowl and waterbirds are their preferred prey.  Smiley in particular has this year been partial to waterbirds/shorebirds.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 14, 2014, 21:39
The Radisson birds are high and dry in comparison with everyone else so a little drip is nothing to worry about  ;)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 15, 2014, 12:59
Princess is napping and so are the kids under her and everyone one is dry.  One of the kids is using the egg as a pillow.
Humidity is starting to fog up the camera some, but that will clear up when it stops raining.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: ballywing on June 15, 2014, 13:09
Never Fails!!!  - Every single year we have a 2 day downpour in Winnipeg right after the chicks hatch :(  - THANK YOU Princess for leaving the dreaded East Ledge alone this year!!!  ;D ;D ;D (And please remember this in future also!!!)  :P
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 15, 2014, 13:10
Check out the weather radar ... http://www.accuweather.com/en/ca/manitoba/weather-radar

Never Fails!!!  - Every single year we have a 2 day downpour in Winnipeg right after the chicks hatch :(  - THANK YOU Princess for leaving the dreaded East Ledge alone this year!!!  ;D ;D ;D (And please remember this in future also!!!)  :P

Maybe we need to install the weather channel in the nestboxes to remind her why "west is best"!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: burdi on June 15, 2014, 15:50

Interesting how nesting boxes are built in many styles. The bottom of this box extends right from inside the nest to outside, but no visible puddles! Must have excellent drainage!

Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: sparkster on June 15, 2014, 16:07
The chicks are totally dry and chirping away, having a snack.  :-* Thank you, Princess, for choosing the west condo this year.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Feather2Fin on June 15, 2014, 17:23
I think the final egg looks like it has a hole in it. I would be surprised if it was viable by this point but who knows.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 15, 2014, 17:55
I think the final egg looks like it has a hole in it. I would be surprised if it was viable by this point but who knows.

after all this time, that last egg won't hatch ... sorry
Whether it was infertile or non-viable can't say but ultimately the same thing.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Sue on June 16, 2014, 10:27
The chicks are sitting beside the egg and it's amazing to see the growth in the chicks since they hatched!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 16, 2014, 13:57
1355h - looking like fuzzy white falcons during a late lunch ...  ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: sparkster on June 16, 2014, 19:26
My goodness, those chicks are growing quickly. I checked on them and found them separated!  :o The little one eventually managed to walk back to its brother/sister during a feeding when it realized it wasn't getting any food.  ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: moka on June 16, 2014, 19:37
Those two are adorable! Some of my friends think they are ugly/cute but, I just think they're adorable!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: sparkster on June 16, 2014, 19:44
Those two are adorable! Some of my friends think they are ugly/cute but, I just think they're adorable!

I agree. I think they are unbelievably cute!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Sue on June 16, 2014, 19:54
We now have falcon chicks demonstrating a spread "eagle".  Don't think I've seen one do that before :)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: susha on June 16, 2014, 20:45
Chickpile in the sunset :-*
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: RCF on June 16, 2014, 21:24
Bedtime snack

(http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy320/Blondechik_2010/Winnipeg%20Radisson%202014/RadissonJune162014003.jpg)
(http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy320/Blondechik_2010/Winnipeg%20Radisson%202014/RadissonJune162014004.jpg)
(http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy320/Blondechik_2010/Winnipeg%20Radisson%202014/RadissonJune162014005.jpg)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: susha on June 16, 2014, 21:26
Oh my goodness, these guys are cute!  Am I just seeing things or could we have a big bossy girl and her brother?...is it too soon to tell, TPC?
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Saoirse on June 16, 2014, 22:09
Every stage of the chicks' development is interesting, but they're just so cute at this stage, just white fluff!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: GCG on June 17, 2014, 07:09
 :-*  A sleeping chickpile in the morning sun. So sweet.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: moka on June 17, 2014, 08:58
What beautiful fluffies with bursting crops, healthy and alert!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 17, 2014, 09:00
Chicks are 12 days old now, so unless there are more torrential rains, we should be seeing a lot more chick, much less Princess  ;)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: susha on June 17, 2014, 10:44
Now they both look the same size ::)
Knew I was seeing things
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: ballywing on June 17, 2014, 14:32
In the 'Totter & Tumble' stage now - so cute and funny!!  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: sparkster on June 17, 2014, 14:41
In the 'Totter & Tumble' stage now - so cute and funny!!  ;D ;D

Yes, and the "I am going to swallow this leftover leg whole. Wait a minute. It is too long to fit - the feet hang out of my beak!" stage.  ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Vivianne on June 17, 2014, 16:34
I've only ever posted once before here, but I read updates daily.

There was a 4pm meal in which, the one sibling tried to eat a whole feather and in the process, because the parent was in the way,
it looked like the sibling was getting hit in the head with a feather. They couldn't get the feather down so they eventually managed
to get it dislodged. Then, the other sibling decided it would be a great idea to try and swallow a whole feather. For 15 minutes, I
sat watching my screen, driving my husband crazy, screaming for this bird to get the feather out. Finally, he/she got the thing out
and all was well.

I never wanted to climb a building and grab this feather from its mouth, more then I did at that moment. By the looks of things in the 'chick pile', he/she doesn't seem even remotely bothered by what happened. Next time I will just remember to breathe....   ::)

Thanks for reading my rambling, Yours: Vivianne 
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: burdi on June 17, 2014, 17:42

Thank you for sharing this Vivianne! I just saw the end of this, but was also fretting about the poor little chick! Unfortunately I wasn't glued to the computer, so was wondering what happened right from the beginning. Was anyone possibly recording this incident?
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Liz on June 17, 2014, 18:53
Thanks, Vivianne and Burdi, for posting.  I'd like to see it too if we can!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Liz on June 17, 2014, 18:55
Chicks are 12 days old now, so unless there are more torrential rains, we should be seeing a lot more chick, much less Princess  ;)
I noticed last evening that they had a whole lot of time basking in the sun without a parental umbrella.  ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: des on June 17, 2014, 19:50
Again a wonderful chick pile basking in the sun.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Kinderchick on June 17, 2014, 20:24
I've only ever posted once before here, but I read updates daily...Thanks for reading my rambling. 

I enjoyed reading your post, Vivianne. :) I wasn't home to see the "feather stuck in the throat incident" so it is always interesting reading other's observations.
Thanks for posting it. Maybe TPC has a recording of it.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Vivianne on June 17, 2014, 20:53
My husband is legally blind so when I'm yelling at a computer saying things like 'GET IT OUT!!! Don't swallow it!!', he tends to wonder if I've lost all my marbles. Which I may have but, that's another matter entirely. lol

I hope there is a recording, it was cute in a way and very stressful at the same time. The poor thing had his/her sibling climbing all over it while it had the worst case of dry heaves I've ever seen. Even though I will never admit when my husband is right, he did tell me several times, once I told him what I was yelling at, that the bird will be fine.

These birds are amazing to watch. They gave me my excitement for the month.  ;D

Yours: Vivianne
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Liz on June 17, 2014, 21:06
Now they both look the same size ::)
Two girls?  :D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Liz on June 17, 2014, 21:28
A two-birdie chickpile doesn't look nearly as comfy.  The 'third pole' this year is the nest box.   ;)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: irenekl on June 18, 2014, 10:18
Oh Vivianne, your not the only crazy.  I'm sure everyone of the peregrine phanatics would be the exact same way.  My family has observed me reacting to a mother stork killing its infant on live cam.  I was definitely certifiable.  I'm glad I didn't see this scene with the chick choking on the feather "live" but knowing the outcome I'd like to see it now.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: moka on June 18, 2014, 10:26
Vivianne, I love your description of the feather feeding.

Every year, they seem to try and swallow enormous pieces, sometimes with feet. In all my years of watching the falcon cam, I've never seen it turn out badly BUT I also stress every time and hold my breath. :o
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Baffled on June 18, 2014, 11:21
Feeding time!  :D

It's great to see how the chicks grow and become more assertive about getting food, and take it from the parent's mouth, rather than waiting with mouths open to have the food put in. One chick just snatched a mouthful that was still attached to the dead bird by a long string of something (tendon? vein?) and needed the adult beak to snip the string for them. :-X
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: ballywing on June 18, 2014, 13:45
Chick still seems to be hacking away..... maybe part of feather still stuck?  :-\
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: sparkster on June 18, 2014, 14:19
Chick still seems to be hacking away..... maybe part of feather still stuck?  :-\

The poor little thing has been hacking away for at least a couple of hours. I hope s/he gets whatever is in there out soon.  :(
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: dupre501 on June 18, 2014, 14:24
One fluffy white chick, one kinda dark chick...

(http://i1250.photobucket.com/albums/hh538/dupre501/2014%20public/2014-06-181420h.jpg)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Kinderchick on June 18, 2014, 18:09
Must be really hot up there in the nest box. The chicks are both laying down in the sliver of shade against the wall. Princess appears to be panting & is trying to provide a bit of a "mumbrella" for her babies.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: RCF on June 18, 2014, 18:17
This is from maybe an hour ago.

(http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy320/Blondechik_2010/Winnipeg%20Radisson%202014/Radissonjune201402.jpg)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: susha on June 18, 2014, 18:31
Now they both look the same size ::)
Two girls?  :D

I keep thinking that one is just a tad bigger and a tad pushier :-\
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Liz on June 18, 2014, 20:13
Some cleaning genes need to show up in this nestbox!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Liz on June 18, 2014, 20:16
I keep thinking that one is just a tad bigger and a tad pushier :-\
Yup, I noticed a difference this morning when I did a quick check-in. 
We're all happy no matter how it turns out!  :)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Liz on June 18, 2014, 20:17
Oh Vivianne, your not the only crazy.  I'm sure everyone of the peregrine phanatics would be the exact same way. 
;D ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: susha on June 18, 2014, 20:22
I keep thinking that one is just a tad bigger and a tad pushier :-\
Yup, I noticed a difference this morning when I did a quick check-in. 
We're all happy no matter how it turns out!  :)

Totally agree, Liz!  It's fun to watch two little individual personalities as they develop, regardless of their genders.

(One girl and one boy would be fun too ;D)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Liz on June 18, 2014, 20:35
Watching the video feed, it seems the egg is still a pillow. Interesting that a parent hasn't got rid of it yet.  
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: allikat on June 18, 2014, 20:37
Great Photo RCF!   :D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 18, 2014, 22:08
lots of hacking up or trying to hack up pellets today.  Scared the pants off a lot of first timers let me tell you!!  The number of emails I got  :D
Yet another thing that isn't pleasant to watch when they are young.  Mind you, the adults don't look all that more graceful yakking up a pellet either.  Afterwards they just pretend it didn't happen which is kind of funny though.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: allikat on June 18, 2014, 22:22
Sorry to compare...but it's kinda like when a cat gets a hairball - the sound and viewing isn't pleasant, (nor the smell), but, after it's out of their system, it's like nothing ever happened.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: allikat on June 18, 2014, 22:29
And it looks like Beatrix might have inherited some of her grandfather's (Trey's) neat genes.  Her box has just one small black head sitting in the corner from when it was raining so hard.  No feathers or legs or anything.  Not like the Radisson - man o man, Smiley has got to learn to just bring the edible bits so the inedible bits don't collect.  Never seen the Radisson box this messy this early.
   
Well...Smiley is special.  He is a male falcon wanting to get into Princess' heart...?   :-\
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: moka on June 19, 2014, 08:45
Cute, sleeping chick pile. They could use all of those feathers to make a comfy bed. ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Dagny on June 19, 2014, 09:22
The discussion about the feather made me curious:  I've seen chicks swallow legs, do they eat other bones as well?

And how do the parents prepare the meal for the chicks?  Besides removing the feathers.   ???
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Kinderchick on June 19, 2014, 10:32
Little one just pooped right in Smiley's face. At least I think it was Smiley. He shook his head & left the nest box to clean himself up, I would imagine.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 19, 2014, 16:18
The discussion about the feather made me curious:  I've seen chicks swallow legs, do they eat other bones as well?

Actually when they try to eat feet they end up having to yak them up again (or have them removed by parent/sibling).  That doesn't stop them from trying.  Food gets stored in the crop until it passes on to the first of the falcon's two "stomachs".  The legs tend to get caught at that part - think sword swallowing.  They can eat bones, one of their stomachs I believe can dissolve they, but I don't believe they do it much or often on purpose.

And how do the parents prepare the meal for the chicks?  Besides removing the feathers.   ???

Usually, food is "packaged" before it comes in.  Head off, wings off, legs off as they aren't the edible parts (or not chick-edible parts, the adults do like brains).  Often many or most of the feathers are removed as well.  Makes it easier to carry food - a pigeon is big - easier to just carry the torso than the whole bird.  Can mean larger meals come in - or rather more food per delivery.  Trey was the master, Ivy was not so neat but delivered tons of food.  This year Princess and Smiley have to pluck their meals in situ (hence the feathered nestbox).  Hopefully Smiley will refine his technique as he gets more years and experience under his "belt".
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: birdcamfan on June 19, 2014, 16:23
I think owls are the worst. Watching one of those baby owls choke down a rat almost made me cough up a pellet or two
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Dagny on June 19, 2014, 18:39
Thank you for the info, Tracy.  I wondered how a chick could swallow a leg as big as it is.   ;D

birdcamfan, I feel the same about owls and rats.  There are some things I'd rather just not know about.   :P
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Liz on June 19, 2014, 19:14
It's pouring downtown!  I guess that's why there is another mumbrella in place.   
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 19, 2014, 20:19
I think owls are the worst. Watching one of those baby owls choke down a rat almost made me cough up a pellet or two

Dennis has a great sequence of photos of a snowy yakking up a pellet that was easily the size of the mouse it had in its foot at the same time!!!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: susha on June 19, 2014, 21:20
I think owls are the worst. Watching one of those baby owls choke down a rat almost made me cough up a pellet or two

You make me smile, bcf! ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: susha on June 19, 2014, 21:22
Nestbox is definitely messier than with previous years when the kids were still this young...but still nothing like the Beleef de lente nestbox!   :P

 
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Liz on June 19, 2014, 21:34
TPC, where is Smiley hunkering down while the rain is Still pouring down?
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: RCF on June 19, 2014, 22:43
Princess stuffed these two this evening.  ;D

(http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy320/Blondechik_2010/Winnipeg%20Radisson%202014/WinnipegJune1920140022.jpg)  (http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy320/Blondechik_2010/Winnipeg%20Radisson%202014/WinnipegJune1920140011.jpg)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 19, 2014, 22:49
TPC, where is Smiley hunkering down while the rain is Still pouring down?

Have absolutely no idea.  Haven't found his favourite perches yet.  Ivy liked the Hydro sign and Trey liked a cornice on the east side ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Kinderchick on June 20, 2014, 09:23
Nestbox is definitely messier than with previous years when the kids were still this young...but still nothing like the Beleef de lente nestbox!   :P

And nothing compared to Callie & Gary's messy nest box at the U. of Calgary! :-X
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Megang on June 20, 2014, 14:21
Peope were talking about the chicks yaking up pellets.  About 5 minutes ago I caught live action bowel movement.  Talk about projectile.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: susha on June 20, 2014, 15:18
Peope were talking about the chicks yaking up pellets.  About 5 minutes ago I caught live action bowel movement.  Talk about projectile.

AKA "Poop-shoots" :P ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: newchick on June 20, 2014, 16:04
Princess stuffed these two this evening.  ;D

(http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy320/Blondechik_2010/Winnipeg%20Radisson%202014/WinnipegJune1920140022.jpg)  (http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy320/Blondechik_2010/Winnipeg%20Radisson%202014/WinnipegJune1920140011.jpg)


Are they ever getting big!  Just curious when is Princess going to kick out the non-vialble egg we see here?
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 20, 2014, 17:59
1800h - dinner time!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 20, 2014, 17:59
Are they ever getting big!  Just curious when is Princess going to kick out the non-vialble egg we see here?

They may or may not do anything with the egg ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Saoirse on June 20, 2014, 19:07
Great photos of the stuffed chicks, RCF! They look as though they could barely waddle!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: bev. on June 20, 2014, 19:55
nice crops on these two. Glad things are going well A first nester. pretty good :-*
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Liz on June 20, 2014, 22:09
nice crops on these two. Glad things are going well
Yup!  :)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Liz on June 20, 2014, 22:13
I was happy to see the babes basking in the sun this evening.  I think the weather tomorrow will be good for them too, most of the day. :D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: moka on June 21, 2014, 12:26
Those huge feet and extra long wings on fluffies are hilarious. They seem awkward, hard to believe they will grow into such speedy agile falcons.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Dagny on June 21, 2014, 16:08
One of the chicks has been walking a few steps on its feet, rather than scooting along on its rump.   :D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 21, 2014, 19:16
One of the chicks had a little wander out on the balcony today ... here's the video ...

http://youtu.be/5yV5Eb4ZUms
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Kinderchick on June 21, 2014, 20:45
Teaming rain now. No wandering out on the balcony now. The chicks are staying pretty close to Princess. The nest box looks pretty dry, although I can see some drops of rain near the front door.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: moka on June 23, 2014, 09:39
One of the chicks had a little wander out on the balcony today ... here's the video ...

http://youtu.be/5yV5Eb4ZUms

Thanks, tpc, great video. They are growing up!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: sparkster on June 23, 2014, 16:35
Does anyone know if Smiley been permitted to feed the chicks?  I haven't managed to see many feedings lately, but a couple of times when I have watched, it has looked like Smiley feeding the "babies", who are getting very big.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 23, 2014, 18:05
Does anyone know if Smiley been permitted to feed the chicks?  I haven't managed to see many feedings lately, but a couple of times when I have watched, it has looked like Smiley feeding the "babies", who are getting very big.

Bccs would know - Smiley is one of her favs  :)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: bccs on June 24, 2014, 13:54
Does anyone know if Smiley been permitted to feed the chicks?  I haven't managed to see many feedings lately, but a couple of times when I have watched, it has looked like Smiley feeding the "babies", who are getting very big.

Bccs would know - Smiley is one of her favs  :)
Hi Sparkster.
I've been a little preoccupied with other things for the last few weeks, but when I have watched the cam, I see Smiley feeding the chicks a lot.
Now the cam is misbehaving for me and it's hard to devote time to watching it.

Tracy, Vesper was my first peregrine love, Smiley is now my second.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: bccs on June 24, 2014, 14:51
Okay, I'm going to go out on a limb here. A feeding started at 2:34 pm. One parent, one chick.  I believe it was Smiley feeding the chick due to the fact that the lunch was not plucked before hand and was done during the feeding. And that only one chick (greedy guts) was fed.
After about 5 minutes the other parent showed up with a meal for the other chick. This meal was less frantic, leading me to believe that it was Princess.
Neither parent showed enough of themselves to make a positive id, but given the behaviour, I'm going with Smiley for the first feeding and Princess for the second.

Again, I could be totally wrong.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: RCF on June 24, 2014, 16:51
Bccs asked me to post a scap of the two chicks with their heads buried in the pebbles. She apologizes for not being able to perform this task herself.  ;D

(http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy320/Blondechik_2010/Winnipeg%20Radisson%202014/RadissonchickJune242015.jpg)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: bccs on June 24, 2014, 17:09
Hey, thanks RCF   :-*

I am the first to admit that I am picture posting challenged.
But I promise to rectify this lack of skill within the next year or sooner.

Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: sparkster on June 24, 2014, 18:50
Hi Sparkster.
I've been a little preoccupied with other things for the last few weeks, but when I have watched the cam, I see Smiley feeding the chicks a lot.
...


Thanks, bccs

I thought it was Smiley - dark head, left wing tip over right, etc. - but I didn't know if Princess was really giving him free reign over the chicks.  ;D  She wouldn't let him near them for very long when they were tiny. Good for Smiley!  
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: bccs on June 24, 2014, 20:14
You're very welcome Sparkster.
Way to look for the subtle signs, and quite often that's all they give us.
Just my opinion, but I think that Princess is a little overwhelmed by Smiley and his persistence.
Both Trey and Ivy gave way to her all the time, but Smiley seems to be a force that she has not had to deal with before. And she's perplexed by him.
Gotta love the "new age" dads.   :)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: newchick on June 25, 2014, 06:28
One of the chicks had a little wander out on the balcony today ... here's the video ...

http://youtu.be/5yV5Eb4ZUms

Thanks, tpc, great video. They are growing up!
;D :o  Gosh, testing the wings already!!!!!!  "Time flies"  lol!   :o
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 25, 2014, 08:31
I'm quoting Bccs' question from the McKenize Seeds board because it is as applicable here ...

Sorry for my tardiness in replying and thanks for your answer to my question a week ago about the banding.
I'm just wondering if there is an update regarding this.
Bccs

I'm waiting to confirm that the time works for everyone but it looks like we will be banding the Radisson chicks on Saturday, June 28th at 0930h CDT.  I will confirm the time here as soon as possible.  Plan is to stream live as usual and there will be a "name the chicks" contest when we know what genders the chicks are.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: RCF on June 25, 2014, 08:53
I am getting the camera feed now.  :)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 25, 2014, 08:55
I am getting the camera feed now.  :)

thankfully it was just temporary!  :D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: moka on June 25, 2014, 11:06
Looking forward to the banding! Yeah for the nest in the clouds.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: ballywing on June 26, 2014, 10:12
??????????? One chick SITTING on the other during the whole feeding???!!! That chick got the WHOLE meal!!!  :( :(
At least that's what is looked like!?  :-[
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Liz on June 26, 2014, 17:09
what a mess!  :o
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: newchick on June 26, 2014, 17:34
Bccs asked me to post a scap of the two chicks with their heads buried in the pebbles. She apologizes for not being able to perform this task herself.  ;D

(http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy320/Blondechik_2010/Winnipeg%20Radisson%202014/RadissonchickJune242015.jpg)

Face plant, or should I say "beak plant!"  funny!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: susha on June 27, 2014, 20:07
So, first chance I've had today to check on the kids and all I saw, when opening the cam was a pile of feathers :P

Less than a minute later, hearing the unmistakable screeches of baby falcons and the chupping of a parent, I tuned in again to see an adult obviously feeding someone...still unseen.  Guess they've decided that sitting on the balcony is the place to be!

Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 27, 2014, 20:23
So, first chance I've had today to check on the kids and all I saw, when opening the cam was a pile of feathers :P

Less than a minute later, hearing the unmistakable screeches of baby falcons and the chupping of a parent, I tuned in again to see an adult obviously feeding someone...still unseen.  Guess they've decided that sitting on the balcony is the place to be!

Thanks for this Susha, I'll see if I can't switch the cam feed when I'm online and they are "outside" ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: sparkster on June 27, 2014, 21:25
I did a quick check at around 6:00-ish. I think it was Smiley against the wall, napping, and one of the chicks was out flat in a corner. I checked again a few minutes later and the other chick had appeared. The chick didn't seem to be wet but I think it was just starting to rain. It looked windy when I checked the first time. The feather carpet was blowing a bit in the breeze. ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: susha on June 27, 2014, 22:05
In fact, the wind seems to have cleared out some of that feather carpet 8)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: susha on June 28, 2014, 08:43
The two chicks are eating now and the size difference is so evident - maybe it's just the camera angle.. ???  Or maybe like last year we have a brother and sister ;D

We'll be finding out soon! 
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: moka on June 28, 2014, 09:18
Can't wait!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Kinderchick on June 28, 2014, 09:35
Hope all goes well with the banding today. Looking forward to hearing if we have a male & a female.  :)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: sparkster on June 28, 2014, 10:30
The poor chicks look totally traumatized, but I know they and the parents will recover quickly. At least the nest box is tidier!  ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 28, 2014, 15:47
The two chicks are eating now and the size difference is so evident - maybe it's just the camera angle.. ???  Or maybe like last year we have a brother and sister ;D

We'll be finding out soon! 

Just the camera angle  :)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 28, 2014, 16:12
Radisson Banding

With only two chicks to band, it was a very fast banding this morning.  We did a little pre-prep to make sure we had everything in place so that added to the "speed".  Princess and Smiley have two female chicks this year, one just a tiny bit bigger than the other - not sure if it would be enough to tell on the webcam but if the the chicks were sitting side-by-side, but maybe.  Both of the chicks were vocal and feisty, nice things in female peregrines.  We did the usual - banded them, photographed them, tidied their nestbox and put the chicks back.  Because they were independent little ladies, we put the board at the opening of the nestbox to make sure they didn't rush out on the "balcony" as soon as we put them back in the box.  Both Smiley and Princess were in attendance and while not pleased we borrowed their offspring, she's been through this before and that helped to keep him from getting too stressed, this being his first banding.  Just had to clean out a wee bit of the nestbox - it may have looked bad on the webcam, but it was much worse in-person! 
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: ballywing on June 28, 2014, 16:21
2 Girls!!! ....Great news, glad all went well!  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 28, 2014, 17:05
One of the two girls decided to hang out on the balcony during the last rain (after 1600h) and now is damp and napping at the far end of the nestbox.  The other chick has been more circumspect about when she goes out to play and is still dry and napping near the camera.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: susha on June 28, 2014, 21:24
Awesome!  I don't remember having only girls since I've been watching the cams :o
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: moka on June 28, 2014, 22:05
Girls, ahhhhhh! I looked in at about the posted time but had to leave to run errands.

The nest looks so CLEAN!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 28, 2014, 22:28
Girls, ahhhhhh! I looked in at about the posted time but had to leave to run errands.

The nest looks so CLEAN!

It's relative - the box looks cleaner than it was but it still has lots of debris in it - I didn't have the tools to clean up much beyond the covered part of the nestbox.  Hopefully the chicks will eat outside more (if it stops raining!!) and the wind will help blow out the bits, most of what I pulled out was feathers and a few legs and a pellet or two.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Kinderchick on June 29, 2014, 00:11
So glad to hear all went well with the banding. Wish I could have watched the live streaming but I was out of town... Wonderful news that Princess & Smiley have 2 feisty girls. :D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Moonstar on June 29, 2014, 08:40
For some reason the live streaming did not work.  ???
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Kinderchick on June 29, 2014, 09:33
Great interview this morning on CBC radio, re: all the bandings, TPC. :D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: GCG on June 29, 2014, 11:33
 ;D ;D So happy you were able to band three nests in two days. I look forward to the videos. A downer for me is after the banding, they change so quickly from white fluffy chicks to their dark feathers as juvies.  :( Soon the cam will show the Royals on their balcony.  ;)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: moka on June 29, 2014, 12:11
;D ;D So happy you were able to band three nests in two days. I look forward to the videos. A downer for me is after the banding, they change so quickly from white fluffy chicks to their dark feathers as juvies.  :( Soon the cam will show the Royals on their balcony.  ;)

And before we know it, we will be empty nesters, in the real sense. ;)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: ballywing on June 29, 2014, 15:31
hahahaaa - Smiley hangin' out with the kiddies this aft - they all look a bit 'damp'  :-X....Smiley is so different from the other 'Dads' we've known - such a likeable guy!!!
Hm....the girls don't seem to want him there - they keep nudging & nipping him - he went outside in the rain for a sec, then right back in again - Come on gals, play nice with your Dad!!!  :-\
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Moonstar on June 29, 2014, 16:18
Maybe they want him there with food and not just company.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Liz on June 29, 2014, 17:21
I think I guessed two girls  :)  Glad they're healthy.  Lots of fluff in the camera lens right now, they're glued inside -- it's pouring again in downtown Wpg.. West nest is best!  :D 
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 29, 2014, 18:45
1842h - raining here in Winnipeg (yet again) - 22mm in the last 24 hours.

All our chicks are soaking wet but they are all old enough to get wet and still be okay, particularly since they all have siblings to "pile" with and parents who will join them when it gets colder/wetter.  At the moment, just the chicks together in a pile in the nestbox at the Radisson.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 29, 2014, 18:59
Special Weather Statement
updated by Environment Canada
at 4:54 PM CDT Sunday 29 June 2014.
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Special Weather Statement for:
      City of Winnipeg
      Steinbach - St. Adolphe - Dominion City - Vita - Richer
      Selkirk - Gimli - Stonewall - Woodlands - Eriksdale
      Dugald - Beausejour - Grand Beach
      Portage la Prairie - Headingley - Brunkild - Carman
      Morden - Winkler - Altona - Emerson - Morris
      Brandon - Carberry - Treherne
      Killarney - Pilot Mound - Manitou.

Strong winds gusting to 80 km/h producing local damage.

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An unseasonably intense storm system centered northeast of the Dauphin area is producing strong westerly to southwest winds over southwest Manitoba and the Red River valley today. Winds gusting to 70 or 80 km/h are being reported with a peak gust to 96 km/h at Brandon Airport earlier this morning. These winds together with full tree foliage and saturated ground are leading to several reports of tree branches down along with local power outages. The winds are expected to stay strong into this evening before they start easing off overnight as the storm system weakens somewhat. Until then residents in the advisory area should be aware of the potential for further local tree damage and power outages today due to these strong winds.

The public is advised to monitor future forecasts and warnings as warnings may be required or extended.

Please monitor the latest forecasts and warnings from Environment Canada at www.weatheroffice.gc.ca
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Moonstar on June 29, 2014, 19:56
I can't believe how big the chicks are today.  It is like they grew over night.   So many dark feathers and just walking around and spreading their wings. 
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 30, 2014, 00:21
I can't believe how big the chicks are today.  It is like they grew over night.   So many dark feathers and just walking around and spreading their wings. 

That was the same reaction I had when I saw the McKenzie Seeds chicks - they are only 2-3 days older than the Radisson and West Winnipeg chicks but they looked much older than that!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: burdi on June 30, 2014, 00:28
Two females, described as “vocal” “feisty” and “independent little ladies” :D
How cute is that! :D  It’s also great to hear our Princess was able to attend, and was helpful in calming our first time Daddy, Smiley!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: susha on June 30, 2014, 10:21
I can't believe how big the chicks are today.  It is like they grew over night.   So many dark feathers and just walking around and spreading their wings. 

That was the same reaction I had when I saw the McKenzie Seeds chicks - they are only 2-3 days older than the Radisson and West Winnipeg chicks but they looked much older than that!

It seems to me that chicks always look older and more developed once they have their jewellry on ::)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: sparkster on June 30, 2014, 15:02
Smiley just came into the next box and was immediately chased out!  He didn't have any food with him.  :o

And I agree with the comments about the size: Those chicks have grown. And all those dark feathers. Yikes! The "babies" are growing up.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: burdi on July 01, 2014, 03:33
Smiley just came into the next box and was immediately chased out!  He didn't have any food with him.  :o

And I agree with the comments about the size: Those chicks have grown. And all those dark feathers. Yikes! The "babies" are growing up.

These two “little ladies” are sure starting to show their strength! :D
Poor Smiley. :(

Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Moonstar on July 01, 2014, 07:28
The view is very cloudy this morning.  Guess they made a mess on the camera lens.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: GCG on July 01, 2014, 09:25
I think the camera lens is foggy, thanks in part from all the rain we have had and the high humidity level.

One chick indoors and the other viewing the outdoors from their balcony.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: moka on July 01, 2014, 21:30
Our two girls seem to be playing peek a boo with each other...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 01, 2014, 23:01
For you night owls, I've switched the cam view so you can watch the fireworks at Assiniboine Park - a falcons' eye view of the Canada Day festivities.
Princess is watching as well, she's perched on the box edge looking west.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: photosbydennis on July 02, 2014, 07:27
Radisson Banding Gallery is now open. Meet the 2 girls.
 
http://www.pbase.com/photosbydennis/radisson_banding_2014
 
Cheers !
Dennis
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: bcbird on July 02, 2014, 11:27
For you night owls, I've switched the cam view so you can watch the fireworks at Assiniboine Park - a falcons' eye view of the Canada Day festivities.
Princess is watching as well, she's perched on the box edge looking west.

I was watching the fireworks with Princess. We had a very pleasant time.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: irenekl on July 02, 2014, 17:24
Loved seeing the fireworks from the falcons viewpoint.  That was really nice, thankyou!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: ballywing on July 03, 2014, 15:15
Aw shoot, missed that! What a great idea!!!  ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 03, 2014, 17:44
Aw shoot, missed that! What a great idea!!!  ;D

Wasn't sure I could see it from the Radisson but Portage Avenue west of the Hotel curves north enough that we had a clear view all the way to Assiniboine Park.  Couldn't seem to find the fireworks at the Forks though .. maybe my timing was off ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Kinderchick on July 03, 2014, 23:18
For you night owls, I've switched the cam view so you can watch the fireworks at Assiniboine Park - a falcons' eye view of the Canada Day festivities.
Princess is watching as well, she's perched on the box edge looking west.

Darn! Wish I had thought to check the Radisson webcam on Canada Day 'cause I was still up. I'll bet it was really cool to see the fireworks from a birds eye view. 8)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 04, 2014, 11:29
I'll see if I can't download a bit of the fireworks so folks know what they should watch for next year  ;) ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: moka on July 04, 2014, 11:46
What a nice idea, thanks tpc. :)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: GCG on July 04, 2014, 12:14
Is is just me or are others unable view the falcon cam. All I get is an exclamation mark. !!!  ::) ???
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: ballywing on July 04, 2014, 12:46
Seems to be working for me - kiddies are just having their afternoon nap!  8)
Ok - well never mind, now kiddies are gone - must be out on the balcony.  :D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: bcbird on July 04, 2014, 15:17
I can't tell if it is one girl or two tucked together napping in the tiny bit of shade at the far side.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: burdi on July 04, 2014, 22:53

Sorry TPC, but my last post may have to be moved. Soon as I remembered the July 4 fireworks were about to begin I wanted to quickly share the link, and went straight to the Radisson (having recalled a few recent posts regarding fireworks). Hope someone was able to enjoy it though.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: susha on July 05, 2014, 09:01
TPC, what is the ETA of Fledgewatch this year?  You might have posted it, but I can't find it if you did ::)

Also where are things at with naming the girls?

We got a good look at the parents on the roof the other evening - one on a small satellite dish and the other on the tower.  Also saw a fluffy head poking out from the balcony.   :-*
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: ballywing on July 05, 2014, 12:57
Too HOT for the kiddies to be inside - we need the "Outside Cam View" Please TPC, when you have a sec ...  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: ballywing on July 05, 2014, 12:58
AND - of course as soon as I say that - one girlie comes inside!!  :P
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 05, 2014, 15:13
TPC, what is the ETA of Fledgewatch this year?  You might have posted it, but I can't find it if you did ::)

Also where are things at with naming the girls?

We got a good look at the parents on the roof the other evening - one on a small satellite dish and the other on the tower.  Also saw a fluffy head poking out from the balcony.   :-*

Haven't posted a fledgewatch countdown yet, given the date the last chick hatched, the chicks will be 35 days old on July 10th but they are both females so sometime between July 10th and the 20th.

As for names, have passed along names to the folks at CBC so they can set up a poll on the webcam site as per usual.  I'll post more information on the choices when they get the poll ready - hopefully Monday?
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: susha on July 05, 2014, 16:09
Thanks Tracy!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Kinderchick on July 05, 2014, 16:28
I'll see if I can't download a bit of the fireworks so folks know what they should watch for next year  ;) ;D

That would be great, TPC! And I'll be sure to watch out for the fireworks next year. :D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: moka on July 05, 2014, 17:28
Poor chicks look SOOOOOOOO HOT!  :P At least they know to sit in the shade  :P
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Kinderchick on July 05, 2014, 18:22
LOL! One white fluffy body pressed right up against the camera lens! :D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 06, 2014, 10:42
The chicks are going to run out of room with all the prey remains in the nestbox ... WOW!  :o  and ick  :-X
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: susha on July 06, 2014, 11:04
Great view of the girls enjoying the summer breezes...preening away and not caring a whit about the uckiness of their balcony :P
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: GCG on July 06, 2014, 11:27
 :P Smorgasbord  :P Buffet  :P Picnic  :P It will soon turn into prey jerky!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: burdi on July 06, 2014, 13:59
:P Smorgasbord  :P Buffet  :P Picnic  :P It will soon turn into prey jerky!

 ;D - your description sounds tempting!


 

Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: susha on July 06, 2014, 21:12
One of the chicks is giving us a close-up of her excellent preening job.  That baby fluffiness is very quickly disappearing and being replaced by darker big-girl feathers.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: burdi on July 06, 2014, 21:20
That baby fluffiness is very quickly disappearing and being replaced by darker big-girl feathers.

I also notice big-girl voices!

Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: sparkster on July 07, 2014, 10:55
One of the chicks is giving us a close-up of her excellent preening job.  ...

I was watching around that time last evening, too. The other chick moved from the back of the box to lie down beside the sister who was preening. It is hard to believe that they will soon be flying off and living by themselves, and flying long distances alone, after being so close for so long and seeking companionship in the nest box.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 07, 2014, 13:09
I've set up the Fledgewatch board for 2014. 

For those of you who plan to participate in this year's fledgewatch and would like to "meet" up with others, send me a PM with your name and I will add you to the fledgewatch board.

Because this board will contain information that is more personal (who's meeting who and when and where) than should be on a public forum, this board is "private" and will only be accessible to members who wish to coordinate schedules.

Any observations during fledging will be posted on the regular nestsite boards.  If any observations are posted here by mistake they will automatically be moved to the correct board so that everyone may share.

Any questions, send me a PM.
Thanks!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: susha on July 07, 2014, 19:57
That baby fluffiness is very quickly disappearing and being replaced by darker big-girl feathers.

I also notice big-girl voices!



I've noticed that as well, burdi, although they're still sounding like demanding kids...just older, demanding kids ;)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Kinderchick on July 08, 2014, 18:43
Nice interview on CBC radio (Up to Speed) this aft, TPC. Switched on my car radio while driving and there you were. :)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 09, 2014, 10:32
Nice interview on CBC radio (Up to Speed) this aft, TPC. Switched on my car radio while driving and there you were. :) 

It was very last minute, initially they called to get information on the little American Kestrel that the host had come across on his way to work.  They asked if I would come on to talk about the kestrel and give an update on the peregrines.  Cute kestrel - pic.twitter.com/5UbLNPtdOB

Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 09, 2014, 10:35
Just so folks know, I have submitted names for the Radisson chicks to CBC but I haven't heard back.

I've also offered to set up the vote if there is a problem or delay with them running it so hopefully it will be up soon either on the CBC site or somewhere on our site.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 09, 2014, 16:21
The girls have spent a lot of time inside the nestbox today - might be the sun or the novelty of outdoors is starting to wane.  Or maybe a growth spurt.  Who know, lots of napping today though.  Maybe as it gets a bit later and the sun is less full blast on the box they will come out and do some sightseeing from the balcony like they did yesterday.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Kinderchick on July 09, 2014, 20:15
Haaa!!! Up close & personal again, with one of the girls showing off her plumage, pressed right against the camera lens! LOL! ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: sparkster on July 10, 2014, 15:31
The Radisson sisters are awfully cute, standing together on the balcony and looking out. Oops! One just had a brief wingercizing session. I still think they will miss each other when they part in the fall.  :(
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: photosbydennis on July 11, 2014, 09:29
Just so folks know, I have submitted names for the Radisson chicks to CBC but I haven't heard back. 

Since we have two females here...I just happen to have a couple of female names that might work...just saying  ::)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 11, 2014, 10:24
Just so folks know, I have submitted names for the Radisson chicks to CBC but I haven't heard back.  

Since we have two females here...I just happen to have a couple of female names that might work...just saying  ::)

Excellent timing Dennis  :P  Contest to vote on names for the Radisson chicks is up and running -  VOTE HERE  (http://www.species-at-risk.mb.ca/pefa/blog/)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: susha on July 11, 2014, 17:25
One of the girls has been wingersizing like mad and just jumped up to the nestbox edge for a second or two before jumping down.  Yikes!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: ballywing on July 11, 2014, 20:17
ACK!! - I just caught the end of that!! - Couldn't believe she was up there flapping away!!!  :o
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: ballywing on July 11, 2014, 20:21
Now the other one is up on the ledge!!!  :o
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: sparkster on July 11, 2014, 20:41
Now the other one is up on the ledge!!!  :o

She is still there! At least she is still, and not flapping. This is way too soon - for me anyway!  :P
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: susha on July 11, 2014, 20:45
I just checked in and there she is, sitting there like she's been doing this forever :o

Cheeky!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: ballywing on July 11, 2014, 20:53
One is the sitter and the other is the flapper - at least the sitter isn't flapping and the flapper isn't sitting on the edge!!  :P
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Kinderchick on July 11, 2014, 22:12
She is still there! At least she is still, and not flapping. This is way too soon - for me anyway!  :P

I think it's way too soon for her too, sparkster. ;)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: sparkster on July 12, 2014, 07:58
The chicks have some temporary distinguishing features: One has a large tuft of white feathers in the middle of her back, and the other has tufts on the sides.  ;D 

The middle-tufted one was on the nest box edge for quite awhile, pulling feathers and wingercizing. I know they need to build strength and agility, but ... yikes! I hope they stay off when the wind gusts are strong today. Oh good grief, now the other one is up there and not looking too steady. And they are both up!

(Wasn't it just yesterday when they were tiny and we were worried about the rain and the cold?)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: susha on July 12, 2014, 11:37
I've been periodically checking in all morning to catch a glimpse of the girls, but other than hearing some screeching a couple of hours ago, there's been no sign of them...at least at the times I've been checking in.  Has anybody else seen them? ???
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: susha on July 12, 2014, 11:40
I've been thinking that they're tucked away inside having long naps, but it's not that hot...the balcony's not in the sun yet...
I usually don't watch this closely in the a.m. so maybe I'm just not used to their morning habits... :P
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Kinderchick on July 12, 2014, 11:45
I've been checking on the chicks periodically as well, susha. Haven't seen hide nor hair of them. Neither have I seen beak nor feathers. ;)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: des on July 12, 2014, 11:50
I've been checking on the chicks periodically as well, susha. Haven't seen hide nor hair of them. Neither have I seen beak nor feathers. ;)

Nicely covered, Kinderchick...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Kinderchick on July 12, 2014, 11:52
Ah.... there are the girls... practicing their wingersizing. :D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: susha on July 12, 2014, 12:21
Ah, good!  Glad you saw them, KC.  They're not there again as I peek in, but looks like the evenings are their preferred time to hang out on the porch. :)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: moka on July 12, 2014, 13:00
Saw one, sunning her breast side only, standing on the porch.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 12, 2014, 15:54
Girls are inside when the wind picks up then our girl with no tape goes scooting back outside when the wind dies down.  Same thing when it rains.  Crazy bird - when the winds were really getting going and before the rain, she scooted outside to grab a snack to eat during the storm!  This one may not be afraid of anything ...  :o
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: ballywing on July 12, 2014, 16:15
I'd much prefer if they didn't sit on the edge in this wind and rain!  ::) - But they will do what they want.  ;) - one of them is doing just that!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 12, 2014, 20:15
That would be our little no tape (aka silver) band girl on the box edge.  As long as she learns to sit, flap, jump up and jump down before fledging properly that is all we can ask!!  So far so good though ...  not sure she will go for a few more days though ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: moka on July 13, 2014, 10:56
All I see are leftovers, no chicks... Hope they wait to fledge.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: ballywing on July 13, 2014, 15:05
Need Outside View Please TPC  ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Kinderchick on July 13, 2014, 15:10
Yup - can only see "leftovers" in the nest box at the moment.
Must be awfully humid up there - camera view is foggy. ::)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: burdi on July 13, 2014, 21:18
Quote
Quote from: photosbydennis
Guess I was to late to add in my suggestions for names :'(
Since we have two females here...I just happen to have a couple of female names that might work...just saying  ::)

Uh oh! Dennis missed out ...again ???  :'(  ...but don’t give up
Soon ...your day will come! :D

Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: burdi on July 13, 2014, 22:17

I hope our girls don’t think about fledging for a while. It’s quite chilly, and I’d like to see them enjoy more snuggling time! :)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Kinderchick on July 14, 2014, 09:09
Nice to see "the girls" this morning, each perched up on a corner of the nest box. :)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 14, 2014, 11:32
Radisson girls are 39 days old today - given the temperature, the wind and their behaviour, I think we may have a few more days to go, but they are smaller so will keep an eye on them today and update again tomorrow.

Unfortunately, this is just my assessment, the peregrines will do as they please without consulting us  :D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 14, 2014, 13:26
One of the girls is napping on the box edge, the other has decided she wants to be more comfortable and is inside napping
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: ballywing on July 14, 2014, 13:38
YIKES, lots of yelling and dancing and flapping going on - on the edge of the box - by both girls!  :o
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 14, 2014, 13:40
From sound asleep to frentic disco moves in 10 minutes!!!   ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: moka on July 14, 2014, 14:37
From sound asleep to frentic disco moves in 10 minutes!!!   ;D

Disco moves, huh, we used to dance the bird but it wasn't this dangerous. ;D

Ouf, okay, they are both inside with their tails sticking out.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: sparkster on July 14, 2014, 19:54
TPC:  Are the chicks likely to hop out onto the ledge and practice running and wingercizing there before fledging? I recall that the chicks did that two years ago.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: GCG on July 15, 2014, 07:22
I have been watching the chicks on the ledge and hearing tempting calls from a parent. I no longer see two. Did I just miss a fledge?
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: GCG on July 15, 2014, 07:30
Phew! False alarm. I again see two. I feel fledge is close.  :o
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: sparkster on July 15, 2014, 09:13
TPC:  Are the chicks likely to hop out onto the ledge and practice running and wingercizing there before fledging? I recall that the chicks did that two years ago.
My question is answered: I just saw one chick hop down for a wingercizing session.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Kinderchick on July 15, 2014, 09:59
One chick sitting in the outside portion of the nest box, just looking about.
Don't know where the other one is.
Okay, now that chick has disappeared.
Now she's back. ::)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: ballywing on July 15, 2014, 10:49
Hm, still no sign of the other girlie. She hasn't gone 'Flyabout' has she??  ;)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 15, 2014, 11:19
Nope, both the girls are still in the box - well, one on the edge, the other at the back of the box (inside) napping.  Seems like they too might need a bit more baking despite being 40 days old.  Both being females, they may take their time before they go - or the least ready may set the timing if her sister doesn't want to start without her.  We'll have to see ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Kinderchick on July 15, 2014, 12:20
This girl sure is a beauty, perched there on the corner of the nest box! :D Hard to believe she was a wee fluffy white ball just a few weeks ago.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: ballywing on July 15, 2014, 12:24
Was at MTS Centre just before noon - One girlie sitting on the ledge - 2 Parents flying around yelling - I thought for sure that other girlie had fledged~! Glad she hasn't yet!  ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Kinderchick on July 15, 2014, 14:31
At the moment, both girls are picking away at "leftovers" inside the nest box, in the shade. :)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 15, 2014, 21:57
The girls have been particularly cute over the last couple of hours.  They have gotten to the point where they like to nip at each other - lots of tail and beak nipping.  And if one is napping and the other isn't ready to nap yet, the napper gets leaped on.  When these two decide to fledge, pretty sure they will go together.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Kinderchick on July 15, 2014, 23:02
Yes, they certainly do sound like bosom buddies! ;)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: susha on July 16, 2014, 10:59
I'm having problems with the cam freezing for a few seconds...starting and freezing again and it's very annoying >:(
Seems to happen a lot this time of day...anybody else having the same problems?
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 16, 2014, 11:16
I'm having problems with the cam freezing for a few seconds...starting and freezing again and it's very annoying >:(
Seems to happen a lot this time of day...anybody else having the same problems?

It may just be the amount of traffic Susha - know that doesn't help much.

I checked the cameras and they aren't freezing so it is an internet connection somewhere.  It could be from the hotel to CBC or from CBC to your computer.  I checked my CBC site on my laptop, so running wireless and I'm not having any problems, so perhaps it is that in your particular (geographic) area the connection is a bit slower at this time of the day?   Just speculation on my part of course!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: RCF on July 16, 2014, 11:27
Try a different browser, sometimes that works for me. :)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Vivianne on July 16, 2014, 11:29
I've been having the same issue as Susha for over a week now. I know its not my internet speed as I can download
as fast as 4MB/s almost all hours of the day and night. I just assumed it was something with CBC. I even have really
big problems just loading the page without running the cam. Not sure what to make of it, but yes, its a little annoying.

Just my 2 cents!

Vivianne
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: susha on July 16, 2014, 12:00
It's been fine at home, so I figure it either the time of day (more traffic) or the browser I'm using at work.  Should be working instead of gazing at the birds, but I do like to have the option ::)

I will try another browser if I get the chance and will report back.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: ballywing on July 16, 2014, 15:17
Me too - Choppy picture for the past week or so.  :-\
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 16, 2014, 16:06
Interestingly, I just checked the CBC from both my laptop and my desktop - both are the same age and run the same software and OS. The interesting part is that my desktop which is hardwired to the internet was choppy while my laptop using wireless wasn't - both at the same time.  Both using the same version of Firefox.  Not sure I can offer anything that might be helpful ....  :-\
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 16, 2014, 16:39
Went back into the recorder and our no-tape chick has been playing on this ledge all day it seems.  She hopped down there just after 0800h this morning and has been up/down the ledge lots of times and back up and down from the box edge as well.  And she finds the camera interesting - not sure if she's talking to it or wanting to eat it ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Kinderchick on July 16, 2014, 18:23
I'm having problems with the cam freezing for a few seconds...starting and freezing again and it's very annoying >:(
Seems to happen a lot this time of day...anybody else having the same problems?

Yup, I have had the same problem, susha, but usually just in the mornings.
Also sometimes have difficulty logging on to the Forum in the mornings.
When this happens, I receive a message which reads "This page cannot be displayed."
If I am patient, and try again a little while later, I can usually log on then.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Vivianne on July 16, 2014, 19:22
We currently have one birdie on the ledge and one on the nest edge. Ledge birdie is trying to get behind the black metal 'rungs' and under the nest. She is also hopefully trying to encourage her sister to come on said ledge by pecking at her feet. LOL Typical sisters
and typical siblings!

On the bright side, my choppiness seems to have settled down for the moment. ./happy dance!

Vivianne
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: bccs on July 16, 2014, 19:41
Oh heck, I'd gladly take choppiness. I haven't been able to access the cam for 2 days now.   :(
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: bccs on July 16, 2014, 19:48
Well, I guess I should be careful what I wish for. I am seeing the  cam but choppiness is rampant.

Sigh, I'm happy that I can see the kids though.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Vivianne on July 16, 2014, 20:02
Just as I thought. Once I told the world that my choppiness was gone, it would come back!

But indeed, I'm just happy I can see them... :D

Vivianne
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: RCF on July 16, 2014, 20:03
Well, I guess I should be careful what I wish for. I am seeing the  cam but choppiness is rampant.

Sigh, I'm happy that I can see the kids though.

   :) 
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: susha on July 16, 2014, 20:23
This evening, at home, the "choppiness" is gone.  I use Google Chrome at home, but can't get it at work, so the browser could definitely be the issue.  And/or the time of day.  But I do agree that we are indeed fortunate to be able to see them, however they're being presented!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: burdi on July 16, 2014, 21:16
Earlier today (think it was shortly before 2:00) it appeared a parent flew in (possibly with a bit of prey). I didn't clearly see what happened, so not sure if that was a quick in and out teaser, or if one girl managed to grab something and take it inside with her. If she did, the other one made no effort to steal it. I know the parents might be holding food back, but haven’t been able to watch much today. Anyone know if/when they actually ate?

Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 17, 2014, 08:47
FIRST FLEDGED @ 0533h CDT

It was on purpose, not accidental - take off looked good and controlled.
No wind to speak of and hopefully all it is good.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: ballywing on July 17, 2014, 09:26
OHHHH!!!!!!!  :o - Any idea where she ended up TPC? Hope all is well, sister is looking lonely on the box edge.  8)   And she doesn't seem to be in to 'Wingersizing' so much in general does she?  ???
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 17, 2014, 09:58
OHHHH!!!!!!!  :o - Any idea where she ended up TPC? Hope all is well, sister is looking lonely on the box edge.  8)   And she doesn't seem to be in to 'Wingersizing' so much in general does she?  ???

Haven't found her yet, but not really surprising, mostly can't see them once they go.  There was no wind and her departure was intentional and she had good trajectory so fingers crossed she's perched somewhere safe.  Princess and Smiley were on the Hydro building (on the sign) earlier so entirely possible they could see her which would mean she's not far from the Hotel.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: susha on July 17, 2014, 10:21
O.M.G.!  Little stinker - that was fast!  Saw your tweet, TPC and I'm glad she's safe for now on the Roger's Building.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: burdi on July 17, 2014, 10:53

Be safe, little ones.

The video was a little choppy, but it looked like the second girl left the ledge!

Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: burdi on July 17, 2014, 11:02

Okay, false alarm, I see her inside now!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: burdi on July 17, 2014, 11:13

Would like to watch live while cam is hijacked! :(
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: burdi on July 17, 2014, 12:08

I just saw a closeup of the girl still in the nest, and she is M/45 (red band).

Now I know the girl that fledged is M/44 (silver band).

Soon, we will find out their names! :)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: bccs on July 17, 2014, 12:21
35 - red band - is having some lunch right now.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 17, 2014, 12:35
35 - red band - is having some lunch right now.

M/45 is the red band ... and if the voting goes the way it has been, her name will be "Vimy"
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: susha on July 17, 2014, 20:34
Do you have any idea of where "Vimy's" sister is, TPC?  Still on the Roger's Building?

(Probably "Chapelle", but wish it could be "Ypres" which is the name currently in last place :-\)

(Shameless attempt at vote tampering ;D)

Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: susha on July 17, 2014, 21:30
Lots of yakking going on since "Vimy" suddenly got up and seemed to leave the nextbox ???

Now all we can see is a mess of leftovers and the yakking continues off-screen somewhere...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: sparkster on July 18, 2014, 08:46
It was a great time fledge watching this a.m. with bccs. Yesterday's fledger returned safely to the nest box early (very early  :)) this morning with Princess and Smiley not far behind her. Her sister, "Vimy"? must have become inspired by her adventurous sister and spent the early morning wingercizing and walking/hopping up and down the ledge. Both parents were nearby most of the time: Princess perching on the tower on the Radisson roof and Smiley doing fly-bys every so often. There was no food drop-off while we were there.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: des on July 18, 2014, 08:50
Thanks so much for the great news.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: bccs on July 18, 2014, 08:56
Thanks Sparkster for watching with me, nice to know you.  :)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: des on July 18, 2014, 09:04
Anybody still down there watching?





Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: ballywing on July 18, 2014, 09:25
Wonderful news!!! So glad the fledger made it back and all is well!!  ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: sparkster on July 18, 2014, 09:26
There was just bccs and me. We left at 7:40.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Kinderchick on July 18, 2014, 09:39
Is that one of our chicks in the nest box right now? Looks like it could be. Hard to tell, with all the "leftovers." LOL! ;)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 18, 2014, 09:51
Is that one of our chicks in the nest box right now? Looks like it could be. Hard to tell, with all the "leftovers." LOL! ;)

Yup, afraid that is Vimy :)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 18, 2014, 11:34
Yesterday's fledger returned safely to the nest box early (very early  :)) this morning with Princess and Smiley not far behind her.

Bccs & Sparkster ...

Where exactly did Chapelle come back to?  Was it out of camera range?  It's useful to know where individual birds return to, it may be part of their personal pattern of preferences which makes it easier to find/identify them later on.

I've checked the recorder for all the cameras and this is the timeline the cameras caught

0303h - adult (Smiley by the size & flight control) dropped by the nestbox without food and Vimy rushed out from inside.  Smiley took off and Vimy spent the next 5ish minutes flapping madly on the box edge. (skycam)

0533h - food delivery - again Smiley and Vimy rushed out for food - he didn't stay long and she didn't go back "inside" and was visible on the cams (skycam & ledgecam)

0545h-0700h - Vimy on & off flapping like mad, stomping around in the box, up/down on the box edge

0708h - Vimy hopped out of the nestbox and down the ledge - doesn't like being alone - tried to get under louvres with more force/determination than other Radisson chicks (skycam, box cams x 2 and ledgecam)

0913h - Vimy finally hops back into the nestbox & immediately goes inside (skycam & ledgecam)

0925h - napping in feathers in box (box cams x 2)

1113h - away & up onto box edge (sky cam, box cams x 2, ledgecam)

1126h - food delivery from Smiley and Vimy lunged at him after she took the food (aggressive little thing) but hasn't started to eat it (skycam & ledgecam)

If it wasn't so early and you managed to get even a blurry photo, please email it to me!

Thanks!  :D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: burdi on July 18, 2014, 11:57

1126h - food delivery from Smiley and Vimy lunged at him after she took the food (aggressive little thing) but hasn't started to eat it (skycam & ledgecam)

I saw this TPC. Vimy was clearly unimpressed with that food delivery!


Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: burdi on July 18, 2014, 12:06
Thanks for the reports bccs and sparkster,
nice to know there are watchers on the ground! :)

Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 18, 2014, 12:07

1126h - food delivery from Smiley and Vimy lunged at him after she took the food (aggressive little thing) but hasn't started to eat it (skycam & ledgecam)

I saw this TPC. Vimy was clearly unimpressed with that food delivery!

Or perhaps just the delivery person!  Wants her sister more?
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: burdi on July 18, 2014, 12:18

1126h - food delivery from Smiley and Vimy lunged at him after she took the food (aggressive little thing) but hasn't started to eat it (skycam & ledgecam)

I saw this TPC. Vimy was clearly unimpressed with that food delivery!

Or perhaps just the delivery person!  Wants her sister more?

Oh good thought, now that would make more sense!


Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: burdi on July 18, 2014, 12:20

Posted in the wrong place, 
I will make another attempt under the Logan heading.






Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: bccs on July 18, 2014, 13:50


It was about 5: 40 ish. Chapelle came from the south, went north of the Radisson and circled a time or two and then slipped into the box. She did not land on the ledge of the box but went right in. We saw Princess and Smiley after that, she went to the tower, he came from the north, circled and took off north again.
I took some pictures, but I don't think it was of Chapelle returning, it happened really quickly. I will check the memory card and if there are any, I'll get them to you.

I definitely saw 4 birds. But I can't speak for Sparkster.

Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: bccs on July 18, 2014, 14:33
She was just in the nest box, stood up and jumped out and onto the ledge.
Camera is stuttering again.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: sparkster on July 18, 2014, 14:59
It was about 5: 40 ish. Chapelle came from the south, went north of the Radisson and circled a time or two and then slipped into the box. She did not land on the ledge of the box but went right in. We saw Princess and Smiley after that, she went to the tower, he came from the north, circled and took off north again.
I took some pictures, but I don't think it was of Chapelle returning, it happened really quickly. I will check the memory card and if there are any, I'll get them to you.

We definitely saw 4 birds.

5:40-5:45 would have been my estimate, too, as I arrived shortly after 5:30 and it was a few minutes after that. She flapped her wings "like crazy" as she circled and then went into the box. After reading the report of the timelines of the recordings, I was wondering if we saw Smiley doing the food drop off but our sighting was definitely later than 5:33, and I think we would have seen him carrying the prey and also flying off afterward.

Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: bccs on July 18, 2014, 15:06
Thanks Sparkster. The bird in question flew like a juvie, not like a mature adult. And I did not see any prey in it's talons. And, I did not notice a bird leaving the nest box.
However, that being said, we do blink and momentarily look away. So, who knows.
I saw 4 birdies, that's my story and I'm sticking to it. ;D

Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Kinderchick on July 18, 2014, 16:28
Was fledge watching downtown this afternoon btw 2:00 & 3:00 PM. Spotted a juvie on the nest ledge, to the extreme right of the nest box. Also spotted a PF tucked into the cross bar on the "H" at the Hydro Bldg. Wasn't sure if it was a juvenile or an adult. :-\
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: burdi on July 18, 2014, 16:53

Vimy is so beautiful, it’s nice to see her up close! :)

She tried eating a few scraps of the food at times, but is likely still sad without her sister. :'(

Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: burdi on July 18, 2014, 17:01

However, that being said, we do blink and momentarily look away. So, who knows.


Hey, we all do that! ;D  ...so who knows

Hope you and sparkster will have further sightings to report!

Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: susha on July 18, 2014, 17:03
So is Chapelle back in the nestbox?
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: bccs on July 18, 2014, 18:58
So is Chapelle back in the nestbox?
No idea Susha.

A big thunder, hail storm just passed through here and now the sun is out.   Sheesh ::)

Sparkster and I will be downtown early tomorrow - 5:30 ish.

I'm hoping we can give a great progress report.
But we'll see what we can see.

Thanks Sparkster, the early mornings can be rough, but they quite often pay off.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Kinderchick on July 18, 2014, 18:58
Sure do hope Chapelle is hunkered down somewhere, if she's not back in her nest box. Raining cats & dogs in Winnipeg right now. :(
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: bccs on July 18, 2014, 19:06

However, that being said, we do blink and momentarily look away. So, who knows.


Hey, we all do that! ;D  ...so who knows

Hope you and sparkster will have further sightings to report!



Thanks Burdie, we'll do our best.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: sparkster on July 18, 2014, 19:12


Thanks Sparkster, the early mornings can be rough, but they quite often pay off.
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It was fun, bccs, although getting up that early is brutal ( ;) ). Thank you for the great information and showing me where to fledge watch. I learned a lot, and it was very exciting to see the Radisson family up close. It is amazing how well we can see the birds when you know where to go and where to look. Vimy is beautiful.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: bccs on July 18, 2014, 19:17


Thanks Sparkster, the early mornings can be rough, but they quite often pay off.

It was fun, bccs, although getting up that early is brutal ( ;) ). Thank you for the great information and showing me where to fledge watch. I learned a lot, and it was very exciting to see the Radisson family up close. It is amazing how well we can see the birds when you know where to go and where to look. Vimy is beautiful.
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Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: bccs on July 18, 2014, 19:19


Thanks Sparkster, the early mornings can be rough, but they quite often pay off.
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It was fun, bccs, although getting up that early is brutal ( ;) ). Thank you for the great information and showing me where to fledge watch. I learned a lot, and it was very exciting to see the Radisson family up close. It is amazing how well we can see the birds when you know where to go and where to look. Vimy is beautiful.




Oh yes she is, and I had a lot of people help me out when I was new. So I'm just paying it forward. But I really enjoyed your company today and am looking forward to tomorrow.
Early morning, yep it's brutal, but it's been my experience that the early time is when the exciting stuff happens.
So, if there are any other early risers out there, we'll be there and hopefully we can hook up.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: bccs on July 18, 2014, 19:24
And that being said, it's time for me to get ready to sleep.
Goodnight all.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 18, 2014, 22:18
Vimy is in the nestbox asleep.
Haven't been able to see Chapelle all day on camera, maybe tomorrow will be better ...  :)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: bccs on July 19, 2014, 08:01
Vimy fledged at 5:34 this morning. It was a good fledge, nice and smooth.
She landed on the new condos that are being built and was still there as of 1/2 hour age.
Dennis and I saw her go, poor Sparkster missed it by two minutes.
We walked all around but didn't see Chapelle.
Princess kept her eyes on Vimy, and Sparkster found Smiley on the n of the east Radisson sign.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: sparkster on July 19, 2014, 08:59
  :( Missed Vimy's fledge. However, it was exciting to see Princess standing...er, sitting guard on the crane and then flying. And to see Smiley, as well. Thanks, bccs, for the acknowledgement of the sighting. At least I was somewhat useful! And thanks also for the great info; I appreciated your experience and knowledge. Both mornings were very enjoyable.

Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: susha on July 19, 2014, 09:04
Wow.  That was fast.  Both girls out of the nest :o  I wonder if these kids will be returning to the nextbox at night so we can get some close-up views :)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: sparkster on July 19, 2014, 09:19
I am experiencing "empty nest syndrome"  :'(; although it actually doesn't look all that empty. ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 19, 2014, 09:38
Had a spin around with the camera and couldn't see anyone but one of the adults on the Hydro sign - looked big so I suspect it might be Princess.  There are work men on the roof of the new condo building now and I looked everywhere for her but couldn't see her so I suspect she has moved to another building.

Thanks Bccs & Dennis for the report!  (Sorry Sparkster)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Kinderchick on July 19, 2014, 13:11
Was downtown fledge watching with des btw 9:30 & 11:00 AM today.
We also looked everywhere for both fledglings but were unable to spot either of them.
You're right, TPC, lots of action going on, on the roof of the new condos across the street.
Men working & crane's swinging... so Vimy probably has moved on.
We did, however, spot one of the parents half way up the antenna on the roof of the Radisson.
Might have been Smiley, but not absolutely sure.
He/she stayed there for quite awhile & appeared to be looking north, across Portage Ave.
So we were wondering if Vimy had moved over to the tall glass building across the street - the Assembly of Chiefs Bldg? :-\
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: burdi on July 19, 2014, 15:49

 Good to hear Bccs and Dennis were able to watch Vimy as she fledged! :)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: burdi on July 19, 2014, 15:53

Thank you to everyone for their reports. :)

Perhaps the whereabouts of our girls will soon be found!

Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: burdi on July 19, 2014, 15:59
We did, however, spot one of the parents half way up the antenna on the roof of the Radisson.
Might have been Smiley, but not absolutely sure.
He/she stayed there for quite awhile & appeared to be looking north, across Portage Ave.
So we were wondering if Vimy had moved over to the tall glass building across the street - the Assembly of Chiefs Bldg? :-\

Sounds like a possibility! :)


Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: burdi on July 19, 2014, 16:17

Princess kept her eyes on Vimy, and Sparkster found Smiley on the n of the east Radisson sign.


Hmm … Chapelle may have been north or east of the Radisson, and possibly Smiley was watching over Chapelle - while Princess watched over Vimy!

Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: burdi on July 19, 2014, 16:30

A parent stopped by the nest about 3:05, just caught the end. Then, about 3:23 a parent with food arrived and left, and again about 3:27. Hopefully a sign the kids may slowly be getting closer to home. ???

Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: sparkster on July 20, 2014, 08:56
bccs and I fledge watched this a.m. from 7:00-8:10. Looked everywhere but didn't see anyone perched. I saw one in flight, probably a parent, gliding down between the top of the Radisson in a north/northwesterly direction but was unable to see where it landed, as a building was blocking my view. It is very windy today.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 20, 2014, 11:58
Haven't been able to spot the adults in any of the usual perches (can't see the antennae on the top of the hotel of course) and when I checked the recorder this morning, there were no visits by adults or kids.

It might be that this year is one of those years that the chicks don't come back to the nestbox.  We'll probably wait a couple of days more as chicks if they want to return to the box generally do within 48 hours, and then the cam may go off for the season.  We'll keep an eye on the cams of course and report anything that happens.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 20, 2014, 14:47
Had a look around with the cameras and all is quiet around the Hotel.  Smiley then Princess when for a visit to the east side nest ledge - got to be cooler there in the shade at the very least.  Couldn't see any chicks on the east though.  Checked on the west side and ditto, I'm afraid.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: ballywing on July 20, 2014, 14:59
Hm - Where'd those babies go?? .....Hopefully No News is Good News!!  :-\
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 20, 2014, 17:23
Hm - Where'd those babies go?? .....Hopefully No News is Good News!!  :-\

Haven't seen hide nor feather of either Chapelle or Vimy since just after Chapelle fledged ... maybe one of those years when the kids leave home right after fledging ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: sparkster on July 20, 2014, 21:15
Checked downtown between 7:45 and 8:15 but no sign of anyone. The only bird spotted was a seagull.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 20, 2014, 23:42
Smiley came by the nestbox to retrieve some food - not sure how old it is/was ... he didn't come back again, so likely not cleaning up the nestbox  ;)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Kinderchick on July 21, 2014, 09:04
Haven't seen hide nor feather of either Chapelle or Vimy since just after Chapelle fledged ... maybe one of those years when the kids leave home right after fledging ...

Even if the fledglings never return to the nest box, would we not see Princess & Smiley teaching them how to fly & hunt somewhere in the downtown area? Or could they just immediately fly off elsewhere? ???
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: sparkster on July 21, 2014, 10:43
Haven't seen hide nor feather of either Chapelle or Vimy since just after Chapelle fledged ... maybe one of those years when the kids leave home right after fledging ...

Even if the fledglings never return to the nest box, would we not see Princess & Smiley teaching them how to fly & hunt somewhere in the downtown area? Or could they just immediately fly off elsewhere? ???

I was wondering that, too. My husband and I went downtown last night as I thought we might see them flying around.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 21, 2014, 11:09
Haven't seen hide nor feather of either Chapelle or Vimy since just after Chapelle fledged ... maybe one of those years when the kids leave home right after fledging ...

Even if the fledglings never return to the nest box, would we not see Princess & Smiley teaching them how to fly & hunt somewhere in the downtown area? Or could they just immediately fly off elsewhere? ???

I was wondering that, too. My husband and I went downtown last night as I thought we might see them flying around.

Some years the chicks hang out together in the downtown area, some years they return to the nestbox to hang out, eat and nap, and then some years, they fledge and we don't see them again unless it is as they fly by.  Their parents will keep track of them, feed them, encourage them to improve their flight skills and then start teaching them how to hunt and then they are independent and they (the chicks) will leave Winnipeg to go exploring before migrating in the fall.  Last year chicks from Manitoba were spread out from Alberta to Ontario and down to North Dakota at the same time.  Then they all started to move in unison southwards but they never hooked up again and all overwintered in very different locations (100s of kms between them).

We may see Chapelle & Vimy after they become more confident of their flying skills and start to explore more on their own - no unusual for them to reappear after a month or two at the Radisson for a day, or a week and then they are gone.

As much as we would like to see them again, learning to fly safely without crashing into things is really what we want!  ;)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 21, 2014, 11:11
Just a heads up, if the chicks don't reappear in the next day or two at the nestbox and spend some real time there, likely the FalconCam will be shutting down soon.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: ballywing on July 21, 2014, 12:45
 :'( :'( :'( It's all over so fast!!  :(  Come on kiddies, come back to the nest !!  8)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: burdi on July 21, 2014, 15:53

Time is running out, but any chance of switching to the ledge cam? This would provide a broader view to anyone who might just happen to see or hear a visitor. If you can’t it probably won’t make much difference, and I understand the chicks may not return.

Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: soaring west on July 21, 2014, 17:51
so, sad that , they were not home bodies, like the year of McDerremt .
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: sparkster on July 21, 2014, 18:27
...
We may see Chapelle & Vimy after they become more confident of their flying skills and start to explore more on their own - no unusual for them to reappear after a month or two at the Radisson for a day, or a week and then they are gone.

As much as we would like to see them again, learning to fly safely without crashing into things is really what we want!  ;)

It sounds as if it is worthwhile to go downtown to see if we can catch Chapelle or Vimy flying to ensure they are ok, and continue doing so as they get a bit older. I am not ready to give up on them yet!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Linder on July 22, 2014, 20:56
Was at Boston Pizza @ City Place and on way home I am pretty sure I saw 2 falcons flying around rooftop of Delta Hotel. For the last 2 or 3 years the fledges have hung around there. If you are downtown check out this area. It was 8pm when I spotted them.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: newchick on July 23, 2014, 07:01
Wow!  Time Flies.  :o  lol!  They sure didn't hang around once they could go.  ::)  Makes summer seem all that much more shorter.  :'(
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: des on July 23, 2014, 08:15
Was at Boston Pizza @ City Place and on way home I am pretty sure I saw 2 falcons flying around rooftop of Delta Hotel. For the last 2 or 3 years the fledges have hung around there. If you are downtown check out this area. It was 8pm when I spotted them.
Thanks for the tip, Linder!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 23, 2014, 11:01
Was at Boston Pizza @ City Place and on way home I am pretty sure I saw 2 falcons flying around rooftop of Delta Hotel. For the last 2 or 3 years the fledges have hung around there. If you are downtown check out this area. It was 8pm when I spotted them.

Thanks Linder!  The sky cam can just reach that far so long as the chicks are sitting in obvious locations - and peregrines so like to be cooperative!  ::)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 23, 2014, 11:03
Be prepared folks, have checked the record and except for some visits (most with food) the only visitor at the nestbox or ledge has been Smiley.  So be prepared that the CBC Manitoba Falcon Cam will be going off-line soon.  The rule is, when the chicks stop visiting the site, the cam goes off for the year.

Will post a notice if I get advance warning!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: GCG on July 23, 2014, 12:20
Be prepared folks, have checked the record and except for some visits (most with food) the only visitor at the nestbox or ledge has been Smiley.  So be prepared that the CBC Manitoba Falcon Cam will be going off-line soon.  The rule is, when the chicks stop visiting the site, the cam goes off for the year.

Will post a notice if I get advance warning!

  :( :'(
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: ballywing on July 23, 2014, 12:33
 :( :(  Sure was nice those years they used to come back every evening and hang out together! They even did that on the East Ledge.  8) - I wish we knew at least where they are, and if they're ok!!  :-\
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: susha on July 23, 2014, 12:50
Ditto Bally! :'(
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: sparkster on July 23, 2014, 13:26
Be prepared folks, have checked the record and except for some visits (most with food) the only visitor at the nestbox or ledge has been Smiley.  So be prepared that the CBC Manitoba Falcon Cam will be going off-line soon.  The rule is, when the chicks stop visiting the site, the cam goes off for the year.

Will post a notice if I get advance warning!

  :( :'(

I think it went off this morning, as all I have seen today is a black "screen".  :'( It has been particularly difficult because we haven't had the Brandon cam this year. It just happened so suddenly. Having said that, the nestbox is a sty and I don't blame the chicks for not going back to it.  :-X
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: burdi on July 23, 2014, 14:17
so, sad that , they were not home bodies, like the year of McDerremt .

It sure was nice watching the 2012 youngsters close-up on the ledge! McDermot would lounge for hours! Now, though - I still hope to hear our 2014 girls have safely found each other. :(

Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: soaring west on July 23, 2014, 14:50
Yes, 2012 chicks was the first year that I started watching. They gave me very much joy to watch. I do hope that someone does see something in the skies .
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: birdnut on July 23, 2014, 15:19
We know the adult birds fight for territory before nesting.
With 10 chicks all within 5-10 miles of each other,
do the chicks or the adults get into fights now that the chicks have left the nest?
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: BirdLover on July 23, 2014, 19:07
We know the adult birds fight for territory before nesting.
With 10 chicks all within 5-10 miles of each other,
do the chicks or the adults get into fights now that the chicks have left the nest?


Great question birdnut!!  I'm interested to know the answer.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: sparkster on July 23, 2014, 20:18
bccs and I were downtown late this afternoon and saw Smiley on a "flyabout" at around 5:45. He landed on the top of the Artis triangle facing southwest, preened for a short while, and took off when we weren't looking. Unfortunately, there was no sign of Princess or either chick.  :(
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: burdi on July 23, 2014, 21:30
I am pretty sure I saw 2 falcons flying around rooftop of Delta Hotel. For the last 2 or 3 years the fledges have hung around there.

Very Interesting - I sure hope you saw our chicks! Thanks for reminding us Linder, (now it’s coming back to me) but I really didn’t expect this to be a recurring place of preference for fledglings! Just a guess, but I suspect it has to do with height and the availability of wider landing areas. Anything you can see that might attract them to this location TPC?
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 23, 2014, 22:00
I am pretty sure I saw 2 falcons flying around rooftop of Delta Hotel. For the last 2 or 3 years the fledges have hung around there.

Very Interesting - I sure hope you saw our chicks! Thanks for reminding us Linder, (now it’s coming back to me) but I really didn’t expect this to be a recurring place of preference for fledglings! Just a guess, but I suspect it has to do with height and the availability of wider landing areas. Anything you can see that might attract them to this location TPC?

The buildings there are lower and there are a variety of them and it's closer to the river - for young birds looking for places to land, those are big pluses - the river is a magnet for them.  The last couple of years the chicks have spent considerable time there, but they also used to come home at night  and to visit regularly for quite a long time after fledging - so the "other" buildings aren't the reason why Chapelle & Vimy aren't returning to the nestbox, they are just where they are hanging out.  (hope that made sense ...)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 23, 2014, 22:06
We know the adult birds fight for territory before nesting.
With 10 chicks all within 5-10 miles of each other,
do the chicks or the adults get into fights now that the chicks have left the nest?

I'm sorry, I thought I answered this one already ... multi-tasking doesn't always work  :-\

When the adults fight, it is over territory and hormones play a role in that.  The chicks aren't hormonal or territorial so no, no fights.  Now chases, that's a possibility since the little terrors chase things all the time - one of the reasons peregrines can get shot is because they chase after crows and being about the same size and dark on their backs and being the last one in the group, well, they can become a target.  Would the adults fight over territory now, no not really in part because there are no hormones driving the need to possess territory but they do still defend their territories and will defend their chicks wherever they maybe if they perceive a serious threat.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Kinderchick on July 23, 2014, 22:17
Was in the downtown area with my husband this evening btw 7:00 & 8:00. Spotted a PF perched half way up on the Radisson antenna. I'm thinking it was probably Smiley but not absolutely sure. No sign of any other PF's.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: ballywing on July 24, 2014, 10:10
 :-\ :-\ :-\  Where the heck did those babies go???????? I don't remember this happening before - they fledge safely, then disappear for good, no sightings??  ??? :(
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 24, 2014, 10:17
:-\ :-\ :-\  Where the heck did those babies go???????? I don't remember this happening before - they fledge safely, then disappear for good, no sightings??  ??? :(

It's not that unusual Bally, no worries.  We usually have one we don't see or only see a couple of times after fledging.  It is more unusual for the chicks to come back to the nestbox at the Radisson funnily enough, so we've been a bit spoiled over the last couple of years.  Hurricane we never saw after she fledged, Radisson too.  Don't recall seeing Ivy either come to think of it.  Tenzing and Hillary vanished as well.  Now that Linder has spotted the darlings down near the Convention Centre, we may well get some updates over the next few days.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Feather2Fin on July 24, 2014, 11:59
Maybe the chicks appreciate a clean, neat nest so they don't want to go back and sit amongst the carcasses.  It was the messiest nest I've ever seen at the Radisson and they all seem to get pretty bad by the end of the nesting season. Smiley was a great provider but needs to hone his carving and serving skills to keep things a tad cleaner.  ;)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: ballywing on July 25, 2014, 14:26
Was at MTS Centre around noon today......and saw..........absolutely Nobirdie.  :( :(
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 26, 2014, 12:50
Lots of flybys the nestbox in the last couple of days - will see if I can download a few clips.  Birds are of course moving too fast to identify, but nice to see anyway.  Smiley's visits are less frequent - but spotted Princess over on the east side nestledge on the gravel (so away from the edge of the building) doing some preening in the light breeze.  Nice to see her. 

Usually in August/September the resident male will start making some new nestscrapes in the nestbox as part of his post-nesting season bonding activities, will be interesting to see what and where Smiley makes scrapes.  Maybe he'll do some cleaning first or perhaps it will be the thing that convinces him on-going trash runs are best next year.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: bccs on July 26, 2014, 20:47
Every day is a new adventure.

I have recently relocated and am no longer downtown.

The best news.........    a peregrine just flew by my new home and she was yelling the whole time.

Yay, oh yay
I have no idea whether it was a Radisson kid or a West Winnipeg kid, but the vocals were music to my ears.

And given past experience, my money is on a girl.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: birdbrain on July 26, 2014, 22:21
Just wondering, can someone tell me, how would the chicks react (and the parents) if they come in contact with a chick from another nest, or another adult PF?  Are they ok with that or would they chase the other away?
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 26, 2014, 23:07
Just wondering, can someone tell me, how would the chicks react (and the parents) if they come in contact with a chick from another nest, or another adult PF?  Are they ok with that or would they chase the other away? 

We've never witnessed it here in town but we also haven't had any injured (or dead) chicks found with injuries that might indicate they came in contact with another bird.  Adults will defend their chicks but the chicks don't have any imperative to fight with each other so no reason for the adults to get involved.  We do know that adults will "adopt" chicks that aren't theirs - it's called fostering and it has been used for years to augment small nests or to relocate orphaned or "extra" chicks.  The adults just count them in amongst their own.  We've even seen adults treating after-hatch-year birds as though they were chicks or adult birds roosting near hacksites have helped with the feeding of the captive-bred young to be hack released.

We try to scout out and help with nestsites that are far enough away from one another that the birds don't come in contact with one another while their hormones are set on "full throttle" because we'd like everyone to get along, so far, mostly so good.  The birds are pretty good at picking their battles, so hopefully, young birds just out exploring the town continue to not be cause for adult concern.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 27, 2014, 21:34
Smiley visited the nestbox an hour ago in order to make a post-nesting scrape to impress Princess and he couldn't find a spot to work in - his little feet started scraping but he couldn't put his breast/belly down in the mess to do the job properly.   He wandered all around the nestbox (inside and out) looking for a spot but nothing - then he sat on the box edge, did a lot of preening (just in case something got on him??) and then he just refused to look at the carnage in the nestbox any longer!  :D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Linder on July 28, 2014, 23:44
Was downtown today around 1:30 and had a walk around the Delta, Holiday Towers and other buildings in that area but did not see or hear any falcons. It wasn't that hot and not too windy so thought I might see some action. No luck.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 29, 2014, 11:15
Was downtown today around 1:30 and had a walk around the Delta, Holiday Towers and other buildings in that area but did not see or hear any falcons. It wasn't that hot and not too windy so thought I might see some action. No luck.

Thanks for making the pilgrimage Linder!  It has been very quiet around the Radisson as well - did see one bird (Princess?) on the JR sign early yesterday and then her or Smiley on the sw Artis sign later in the day ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Liz on July 29, 2014, 12:40
I missed the JR sign seating!  I haven't seen anyone there since Trey left, and it's been very disappointing as it's right out the window and I used to see Princess there all the time. 

On the other hand, if they're finding the Artis sign interesting maybe they'll be flying right in front of my window on a regular basis next year!  A girl can dream.   ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Kinderchick on July 29, 2014, 19:23
I was in the downtown area around 5:00 PM today. Unfortunately, no PF sightings.  :(
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: burdi on July 30, 2014, 01:19
Smiley visited the nestbox an hour ago in order to make a post-nesting scrape to impress Princess and he couldn't find a spot to work in - his little feet started scraping but he couldn't put his breast/belly down in the mess to do the job properly.   He wandered all around the nestbox (inside and out) looking for a spot but nothing - then he sat on the box edge, did a lot of preening (just in case something got on him??) and then he just refused to look at the carnage in the nestbox any longer!  :D

Hehe :-X ::) ... aww poor Smiley … please don’t give up. :'(
You must find a way to impress your Princess! :D


Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: birdcamfan on July 30, 2014, 06:22
I missed the JR sign seating!  I haven't seen anyone there since Trey left, and it's been very disappointing as it's right out the window and I used to see Princess there all the time.  

On the other hand, if they're finding the Artis sign interesting maybe they'll be flying right in front of my window on a regular basis next year!  A girl can dream.   ;D

I still check out the JR sign every day expecting to see someone. All you downtown employees are lucky to have "the view".
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: sparkster on July 30, 2014, 13:54
Smiley visited the nestbox an hour ago in order to make a post-nesting scrape to impress Princess and he couldn't find a spot to work in - his little feet started scraping but he couldn't put his breast/belly down in the mess to do the job properly.   He wandered all around the nestbox (inside and out) looking for a spot but nothing - then he sat on the box edge, did a lot of preening (just in case something got on him??) and then he just refused to look at the carnage in the nestbox any longer!  :D

Hehe :-X ::) ... aww poor Smiley … please don’t give up. :'(
You must find a way to impress your Princess! :D




I hope Smiley doesn't decide that the east nest ledge is an ideal spot to make a scrape! Perhaps the Radisson would provide "cleaning service" to the west condo nest box after they leave for the winter?   :D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 30, 2014, 17:14
I hope Smiley doesn't decide that the east nest ledge is an ideal spot to make a scrape! Perhaps the Radisson would provide "cleaning service" to the west condo nest box after they leave for the winter?   :D  

Oh, it won't be the Radisson, rather Dennis & I who will be doing the honours.  In the spring when we were checking the box, before Smiley even arrived, we had decided this was going to be the year to change the gravel.  Generally we only do it every few years because too clean is not (believe it or not) quite as appealing as a little "lived-in".  So we'll clean it out this fall once it has had time to dry out (and air out) that way it will be able to "age" over the winter.

As for nesting on the nestledge, he better not.  He seems to gravitate to nestboxes - West Wpg, Logan and now the Radisson - so hopefully he will continue to do so.  He was hatched in a nestbox for whatever that is worth (hopefully it is worth something).  Only way to know for sure is to wait until (if) he returns next spring.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: BirdLover on July 30, 2014, 18:46
So if Smiley is making the rounds of Winnipeg nest boxes, do we follow him around to see if there is another nest somewhere in the Winnipeg area? :P  Assuming he doesn't win over Princess next year. ;)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 30, 2014, 23:36
So if Smiley is making the rounds of Winnipeg nest boxes, do we follow him around to see if there is another nest somewhere in the Winnipeg area? :P  Assuming he doesn't win over Princess next year. ;)

Sorry, that was my fault for being confusing .... since he turned up a couple of years ago he has centred his attentions at nestsites with boxes - first West Winnipeg two years ago, Logan & Radisson last year and legitimately at the Radisson this year.  Last year and the year before as I recall, he was at these sites before the resident pairs so not the birds attracting him, rather the sites.  Haven't seen him much if at all on the nestledge and hopefully, though the female make the final choice, he doesn't start taking an interest in the ledge.  Next year the construction on the condo building across the street will be finished so it should be quieter on the west side next year ... and if the "other" condo building goes ahead, it should be noisier on the east side (if I have the location correct).  But who knows, can't count our peregrines before they arrive next March ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: BirdLover on July 31, 2014, 09:37
Thanks for the clarification, TPC.  :)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on August 01, 2014, 22:01
Smiley made an appearance yesterday on the nestledge - for less than a minute though ... http://youtu.be/SKF6pVu-iT4
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: bcbird on August 01, 2014, 22:09
Um, yeah, only 6 seconds. 
Perhaps that's how bad the smell is from the box?
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: birdnut on August 15, 2014, 09:30
I was downtown for the concert last night.  About 7:30, 3 birds were chasing each other between the Hydro building and the Radisson.  There are also about 10 crows hanging out on the Wpg Ballet building earlier.  One of the birds was definitely a falcon; there was a lot of kakking going on. 
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: burdi on August 18, 2014, 19:37
Smiley made an appearance yesterday on the nestledge - for less than a minute though ... http://youtu.be/SKF6pVu-iT4


TPC -- Just to let you know, I really enjoyed the Quick Visit video. Although a very brief appearance, it was so nice to see Smiley again!

You also mentioned the girls were seen in some fly-bys. This is a quote from you: “Radisson - Smiley's visits are shorter & less frequent, but we have had some great fly-bys by the girls the last couple of days” (July 26, 10:29 a.m. - Twitter)

I’ll continue to hope someone might surprise us with a photo of Vimy or Chapelle; meanwhile, I’m wondering if you tried to get a clip of the girls in those fly-bys? I presume you felt they weren’t clear enough (or you probably would have shared). However, we haven’t seen any photos since they left, so I’m thinking it might be interesting to see whoever appeared to be “the girls".

Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: burdi on August 18, 2014, 20:56

Link to the actual question/answer from July 23

http://www.species-at-risk.mb.ca/pefa/forum/index.php/topic,4087.msg98000.html#msg98000

TPC, Sorry I left this aside for a while. I found it quite sad when Chapelle and Vimy never returned to their nest. I’m sure many of us wanted to watch them learn from Smiley and Princess … and to know they were able to fend for themselves … still, I like to believe they managed to find each other.

Your explanations are always appreciated, and this particular answer - including the last part - does make sense; although, the more difficult task was coming to accept it as it is.

Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Kinderchick on September 05, 2014, 22:23
I was in the downtown area for an appt. today & spotted a PF on the SW corner of the Assembly of Manitoba Chief's Bldg., across the street from the Radisson. :)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: dupre501 on September 06, 2014, 13:20
Nice!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: ballywing on September 09, 2014, 12:03
After a summer of pretty much 'nothing'  :( - I was thrilled to see Somebirdie sitting on the West Nest ledge just before noon  ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: sparkster on September 09, 2014, 15:12
I am glad that there is a sign of peregrine falcon life downtown. I thought I saw someone on the west nest ledge last Friday morning, but didn't trust my sighting without binoculars.

Smiley stayed until around the end of October last year, trying out the different nest boxes. I wonder if he will feel comfortable leaving earlier this year, now that he has established a residence and found a lady friend.  ;)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Kinderchick on September 09, 2014, 22:44
After a summer of pretty much 'nothing'  :( - I was thrilled to see Somebirdie sitting on the West Nest ledge just before noon  ;D

That's great news, ballywing! :D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on September 10, 2014, 10:54
We are having technical problems with the internet connection to the Radisson at the moment so haven't been able to try and identify visitors, but I certainly hope to be able to again soon as this is the time of year when we sometimes get some surprises!!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: ballywing on September 10, 2014, 19:43
Same thing today - Bird on Radisson West Nest ledge just before noon - quite light in colour. :)
Might not even be a Peregrine? Wish I'd had my binocs!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Moonstar on September 15, 2014, 10:10
This morning on the CTV morning show a Peregrine was sitting in front of their camera that faces the Forks.  At least I think it was the Forks.  I was so busy looking at the Peregrine Falcon.  It was very close up and it was defintely an adult.   I am not that good at telling them apart but I am thinking it was Princess because there were speckles all the way up his/her chest.  The bird must have been sitting there for awhile because when I saw it they commented on how he was still there.  The falcon filled the whole TV screen.  Feathers were blowing in the wind.   :)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: RCF on September 15, 2014, 19:42
This morning on the CTV morning show a Peregrine was sitting in front of their camera that faces the Forks.  At least I think it was the Forks.  I was so busy looking at the Peregrine Falcon.  It was very close up and it was defintely an adult.   I am not that good at telling them apart but I am thinking it was Princess because there were speckles all the way up his/her chest.  The bird must have been sitting there for awhile because when I saw it they commented on how he was still there.  The falcon filled the whole TV screen.  Feathers were blowing in the wind.   :)


Here's the birdie your talking about. I got a couple of screen captures.  :)

(http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy320/Blondechik_2010/Winnipeg%20Radisson%202014/falcononCTVmorningshow0011.jpg)  (http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy320/Blondechik_2010/Winnipeg%20Radisson%202014/falcononCTVmorningshow0033.jpg)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Kinderchick on September 15, 2014, 22:44
Wow! What great screen captures, RCF! Definitely a peregrine falcon, all puffed up for the TV camera. LOL! I wonder which bird it was? ???
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on September 16, 2014, 09:34
Wow! What great screen captures, RCF! Definitely a peregrine falcon, all puffed up for the TV camera. LOL! I wonder which bird it was? ???

I've been talking with the CTV folks to see if they have any additional photos ... not likely I know ... in case I can get an ID on the bird.  If I had to guess right now, looking at photos from this time last year, I wouldn't be surprised if this turned out to be Smiley.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Moonstar on September 16, 2014, 10:13
Great screem capture RCF. 
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on September 16, 2014, 16:59
Thanks for posting the photos RCF!  Your capture was definitely the best from the video, well done!  :D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: des on September 17, 2014, 10:43
Where is the photo taken from?
Great captures!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: bev. on September 21, 2014, 20:08
I just want to let you know I have updated U of a , Bell and Weber to best of my ability right now. I will do Genesse in next few days

I know  how frustrating it is when you do not see your young after they fledge. Every year is different and it changes as adults change.
But Radisson is proof that just because you do not see them, does not mean things are not O.K. I have said this before.

let us hope all  our birds migrate safely and we see them at some site.

We have a female form the Mis in Edmonton nesting on Red Deer River and  a young male from  Weber nesting at the Mis.

have a great off season. :-*

sorry I was not here much but I did check in to see what was happening.
Bev
Title: Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
Post by: Cooper on October 03, 2014, 15:59
Possible/Probable sighting of at least one, maybe two, peregrines downtown this afternoon. As an aside, I recently moved offices such that while I used to be looking up at the sky from ground level, I'm now up in the sky and looking at the goings on from bird's-eye view. Quite different.

In any event, when I arrived back at my office after running an errand, it was reported to me by two office mates that they had been watching what they thought were two falcons flying around and acting all "lovey-dovey" to each other and they wanted me to confirm that these birds were indeed falcons. Unfortunately the two love birds had vanished by the time I got to the window.

I suggested that they may have been pigeons which have been rather plentiful in the skies over the last couple of weeks. My colleagues were indignant and adamant that the birds they saw were not pigeons.

Then as we were talking I saw one bird fly by that most definitely did appear falcon-like. I wouldn't swear it was any peregrine we know, I didn't recognize the bird's colouring or flight pattern. And that's because his/her flight was affected by the load s/he was carrying off - and that WAS a freshly caught pigeon.

I lost sight of her at that apartment building that looks like a milk carton at the corner of York and Carlton. I suspect that's where the meal was eaten.