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Manitoba Peregrines => West Winnipeg Peregrines => Topic started by: The Peregrine Chick on February 21, 2020, 18:32

Title: West Winnipeg - 2020 / Hart & ?
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on February 21, 2020, 18:32
I'm very much hoping that Ty and Ella are this year's resident pair here in West Winnipeg.  Ella is turning into a crackjack mom and Ty is such a lovely male, and one of the last of Trey's kids.  It would be nice to have his company for a couple/few more years.
Title: Re: West Winnipeg - 2020 / Hart & ?
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on March 04, 2020, 01:37
https://twitter.com/mbperegrines/status/1235053916502413312
Title: Re: West Winnipeg - 2020 / Hart & ?
Post by: dupre501 on March 12, 2020, 12:55
Lovely! Always good news to here about Winnipeg birds.
Title: Re: West Winnipeg - 2020 / Hart & ?
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on March 29, 2020, 18:53
https://twitter.com/mbperegrines/status/1244396049382420486
Title: Re: West Winnipeg - 2020 / Hart & ?
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on April 02, 2020, 15:35
https://twitter.com/mbperegrines/status/1245811267031502848
Title: Re: West Winnipeg - 2020 / Hart & ?
Post by: photosbydennis on April 14, 2020, 09:25
Gallery has been created for West Wpg...more photos when available.

https://pbase.com/photosbydennis/west_wpg_2020
Title: Re: West Winnipeg - 2020 / Hart & ?
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on April 20, 2020, 15:07
https://twitter.com/mbperegrines/status/1252326124195020802

https://twitter.com/mbperegrines/status/1252326580610838528
Title: Re: West Winnipeg - 2020 / Hart & ?
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on April 21, 2020, 13:41
https://twitter.com/mbperegrines/status/1252668483701215232
Title: Re: West Winnipeg - 2020 / Hart & ?
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on April 21, 2020, 14:10
https://twitter.com/mbperegrines/status/1252675721945890817
Title: Re: West Winnipeg - 2020 / Hart & ?
Post by: Shocka88 on April 21, 2020, 19:16
 :o ::) :-\ .....she displays very loose morals!  ;D
Title: Re: West Winnipeg - 2020 / Hart & ?
Post by: photosbydennis on April 22, 2020, 11:54
(https://pbase.com/photosbydennis/image/170643582/medium.jpg)
Ella you should really be at the Radisson watching over your eggs...not visiting the Old Stomping Grounds and the X...just sayin !
Title: Re: West Winnipeg - 2020 / Hart & ?
Post by: irenekl on April 22, 2020, 16:44
Can hardly believe this is whats happening??   Is she mating only with Pip or do we even know?  This is not normal is it?
Title: Re: West Winnipeg - 2020 / Hart & ?
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on April 23, 2020, 09:25
Can hardly believe this is whats happening??   Is she mating only with Pip or do we even know?  This is not normal is it?

Ella and Hart have been spring/fall buddies for years so that part isn't unusual. Hart is a little more gung-ho in his courting than other birds (freaking little Engergizer Bunny actually) and he and Ella were happily setting up shop at the Radisson before Pip arrived.  What is different is that he's now at her old nestsite (remember she can see the whole city from the roof of the Radisson) and none of the ladies he's been courting as settled down with him, if they had, they would be defending the site and Ella would be consolidating her residency at the Radisson.

I don't know why Hart's ladies aren't staying around, but I suspect it's because Ella keeps turning up - or maybe the ladies are working it out among themselves. End result is that there is not female to keep Ella from visiting her old nestsite and since Hart is offering food to ladies (any ladies obviously) - she's taking him up on his offer. And because she's sort at the peak of her cycle, copulation is also not a surprise, but at this point likely not contributing to the egg count midway through laying.  Better to think of it as an hormonal reflex - both with Hart and Pip.

As for who this year's daddy is? Well I'd need to check Pip's return date.  Usually that gives us a good idea of who is most like the dad. Copulation takes place over a long time, some research even says it can/does start while on migration with whomever - peregrine foreplay if you like.  Copulation changes in frequency and duration as the cycle continues and  many of the copulations are just going through the motions. There has been research on paternity but I don't remember what they found was the rate of offspring from extracurricular copulations but will see if I can find it again.  It may also be that male peregrines aren't so concerned that all their offspring are theirs rather having a nestsite increases their likelihood of attracting a mate and that increases their chances of passing on their genes ... same with defending said territory, providing food, courting enthusiastically, copulating when the female offers, being attentive to helping with incubation/child-rearing, etc.  By doing all that, his chances of a) having offspring increases exponentially and b) for any offspring he does father it improves their chance of survival.  A peregrine's genetic success is if his offspring have offspring - Pip needs to do a good job with his chicks through to September so they have their best chance to survive until they in turn find a mate and a nestsite and they have young.  Genetics is the long game peregrines may or may not know they are playing.
Title: Re: West Winnipeg - 2020 / Hart & ?
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on April 23, 2020, 16:12
https://twitter.com/mbperegrines/status/1253431228197244930
Title: Re: West Winnipeg - 2020 / Hart & ?
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on April 28, 2020, 18:03
https://twitter.com/mbperegrines/status/1255269804992315396
Title: Re: West Winnipeg - 2020 / Hart & ?
Post by: dupre501 on April 29, 2020, 16:01
Hate to waste a perfectly good nest site. Really hope things will settle here.
Title: Re: West Winnipeg - 2020 / Hart & ?
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on April 29, 2020, 16:13
Hate to waste a perfectly good nest site. Really hope things will settle here.

I'd hate to waste two perfectly good nest sites - Logan and West Wpg!!
See my note on the Logan board.  :)
Time will tell.
Title: Re: West Winnipeg - 2020 / Hart & ?
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 14, 2020, 17:38
https://twitter.com/mbperegrines/status/1261063221366185989
Title: Re: West Winnipeg - 2020 / Hart & ?
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 24, 2020, 16:59
https://twitter.com/mbperegrines/status/1264676829585199109
Title: Re: West Winnipeg - 2020 / Hart & ?
Post by: susha on May 25, 2020, 11:06
This is just so heartbreaking!  Seems there were so many nests this time a couple of years ago.  Now, only one so far at Radisson and Hart is alone in spite of his hard work  :-*
Title: Re: West Winnipeg - 2020 / Hart & ?
Post by: dupre501 on May 28, 2020, 18:28
 :(
Title: Re: West Winnipeg - 2020 / Hart & ?
Post by: carly on May 29, 2020, 11:58
Maybe that unbanded female that was released from the cell tower will find her way to Hart!  He's so handsome  :-*
Title: Re: West Winnipeg - 2020 / Hart & ?
Post by: GCG on May 29, 2020, 13:53
Maybe that unbanded female that was released from the cell tower will find her way to Hart!  He's so handsome  :-*

I had the same thoughts carly! She was banded prior to being released. Maybe she will hear Hart's mournful kakking.  ;D
Title: Re: West Winnipeg - 2020 / Hart & ?
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 29, 2020, 18:31
Maybe that unbanded female that was released from the cell tower will find her way to Hart!  He's so handsome  :-*

I had the same thoughts carly! She was banded prior to being released. Maybe she will hear Hart's mournful kakking.  ;D

'Fraid Phoenix and Hart won't be hanging out unless Hart decides he's had enough of ungrateful females and decides to spend the rest of the summer hanging out the guys!  Phoenix it turns out (according to his foot size) is a male!  Beautiful bird though!
Title: Re: West Winnipeg - 2020 / Hart & ?
Post by: carly on May 29, 2020, 19:24
Maybe that unbanded female that was released from the cell tower will find her way to Hart!  He's so handsome  :-*

I had the same thoughts carly! She was banded prior to being released. Maybe she will hear Hart's mournful kakking.  ;D

'Fraid Phoenix and Hart won't be hanging out unless Hart decides he's had enough of ungrateful females and decides to spend the rest of the summer hanging out the guys!  Phoenix it turns out (according to his foot size) is a male!  Beautiful bird though!

Well darn it all. 
Title: Re: West Winnipeg - 2020 / Hart & ?
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 02, 2020, 16:00
https://twitter.com/mbperegrines/status/1267894506218762241
Title: Re: West Winnipeg - 2020 / Hart & ?
Post by: ballywing on June 02, 2020, 20:49
That picture breaks my heart, he looks so lonely.  :'(m- Where's the west nest invader, maybe she will find him?  8)
Title: Re: West Winnipeg - 2020 / Hart & ?
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 06, 2020, 12:35
https://twitter.com/mbperegrines/status/1269248251590512641
Title: Re: West Winnipeg - 2020 / Hart & ?
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 12, 2020, 18:14
https://twitter.com/mbperegrines/status/1271577720548470787
Title: Re: West Winnipeg - 2020 / Hart & ?
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 13, 2020, 08:37
https://twitter.com/mbperegrines/status/1271798762764189698
Title: Re: West Winnipeg - 2020 / Hart & ?
Post by: irenekl on June 13, 2020, 10:57
Aww man dear sweet Hart.   How did this happen?  His story this year is killing me.😔
Title: Re: West Winnipeg - 2020 / Hart & ?
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 13, 2020, 19:04
Aww man dear sweet Hart.   How did this happen?  His story this year is killing me.😔

It happened because Ella can't share!
Hopefully next year if she returns to the Radisson she will give up her extra-curricular activities!
Title: Re: West Winnipeg - 2020 / Hart & ?
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 21, 2020, 17:51
https://twitter.com/mbperegrines/status/1274834462082293768
Title: Re: West Winnipeg - 2020 / Hart & ?
Post by: birdbrain on June 21, 2020, 19:08
Very sad, especially when you know there are birds who would have probably wanted to nest there!!
Title: Re: West Winnipeg - 2020 / Hart & ?
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 28, 2020, 19:46
https://twitter.com/mbperegrines/status/1277392380220579842
Title: Re: West Winnipeg - 2020 / Hart & ?
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 02, 2020, 18:30
https://twitter.com/mbperegrines/status/1278744243603935233
Title: Re: West Winnipeg - 2020 / Hart & ?
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 03, 2020, 14:43
https://twitter.com/mbperegrines/status/1279118969182597121
Title: Re: West Winnipeg - 2020 / Hart & ?
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 04, 2020, 19:27
https://twitter.com/mbperegrines/status/1279564169117937664
Title: Re: West Winnipeg - 2020 / Hart & ?
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 05, 2020, 17:00
https://twitter.com/ctvwinnipeg/status/1279884415183831046
Title: Re: West Winnipeg - 2020 / Hart & ?
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 05, 2020, 17:01
https://twitter.com/mbperegrines/status/1279891060156743680
Title: Re: West Winnipeg - 2020 / Hart & ?
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 05, 2020, 17:01
https://twitter.com/mbperegrines/status/1279892292568932352
Title: Re: West Winnipeg - 2020 / Hart & ?
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 05, 2020, 17:02
https://twitter.com/thegurlz/status/1279891996388270081
Title: Re: West Winnipeg - 2020 / Hart & ?
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 05, 2020, 17:23
https://twitter.com/mbperegrines/status/1279903455457533958
Title: Re: West Winnipeg - 2020 / Hart & ?
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 13, 2020, 19:04
https://twitter.com/mbperegrines/status/1282825219778977792