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Manitoba Peregrines => West Winnipeg Peregrines => : The Peregrine Chick February 21, 2020, 18:32

: West Winnipeg - 2020 / Hart & ?
: The Peregrine Chick February 21, 2020, 18:32
I'm very much hoping that Ty and Ella are this year's resident pair here in West Winnipeg.  Ella is turning into a crackjack mom and Ty is such a lovely male, and one of the last of Trey's kids.  It would be nice to have his company for a couple/few more years.
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: The Peregrine Chick March 04, 2020, 01:37
https://twitter.com/mbperegrines/status/1235053916502413312
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: dupre501 March 12, 2020, 12:55
Lovely! Always good news to here about Winnipeg birds.
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: The Peregrine Chick March 29, 2020, 18:53
https://twitter.com/mbperegrines/status/1244396049382420486
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: The Peregrine Chick April 02, 2020, 15:35
https://twitter.com/mbperegrines/status/1245811267031502848
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: photosbydennis April 14, 2020, 09:25
Gallery has been created for West Wpg...more photos when available.

https://pbase.com/photosbydennis/west_wpg_2020
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: The Peregrine Chick April 20, 2020, 15:07
https://twitter.com/mbperegrines/status/1252326124195020802

https://twitter.com/mbperegrines/status/1252326580610838528
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: The Peregrine Chick April 21, 2020, 13:41
https://twitter.com/mbperegrines/status/1252668483701215232
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: The Peregrine Chick April 21, 2020, 14:10
https://twitter.com/mbperegrines/status/1252675721945890817
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: Shocka88 April 21, 2020, 19:16
 :o ::) :-\ .....she displays very loose morals!  ;D
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: photosbydennis April 22, 2020, 11:54
(https://pbase.com/photosbydennis/image/170643582/medium.jpg)
Ella you should really be at the Radisson watching over your eggs...not visiting the Old Stomping Grounds and the X...just sayin !
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: irenekl April 22, 2020, 16:44
Can hardly believe this is whats happening??   Is she mating only with Pip or do we even know?  This is not normal is it?
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: The Peregrine Chick April 23, 2020, 09:25
Can hardly believe this is whats happening??   Is she mating only with Pip or do we even know?  This is not normal is it?

Ella and Hart have been spring/fall buddies for years so that part isn't unusual. Hart is a little more gung-ho in his courting than other birds (freaking little Engergizer Bunny actually) and he and Ella were happily setting up shop at the Radisson before Pip arrived.  What is different is that he's now at her old nestsite (remember she can see the whole city from the roof of the Radisson) and none of the ladies he's been courting as settled down with him, if they had, they would be defending the site and Ella would be consolidating her residency at the Radisson.

I don't know why Hart's ladies aren't staying around, but I suspect it's because Ella keeps turning up - or maybe the ladies are working it out among themselves. End result is that there is not female to keep Ella from visiting her old nestsite and since Hart is offering food to ladies (any ladies obviously) - she's taking him up on his offer. And because she's sort at the peak of her cycle, copulation is also not a surprise, but at this point likely not contributing to the egg count midway through laying.  Better to think of it as an hormonal reflex - both with Hart and Pip.

As for who this year's daddy is? Well I'd need to check Pip's return date.  Usually that gives us a good idea of who is most like the dad. Copulation takes place over a long time, some research even says it can/does start while on migration with whomever - peregrine foreplay if you like.  Copulation changes in frequency and duration as the cycle continues and  many of the copulations are just going through the motions. There has been research on paternity but I don't remember what they found was the rate of offspring from extracurricular copulations but will see if I can find it again.  It may also be that male peregrines aren't so concerned that all their offspring are theirs rather having a nestsite increases their likelihood of attracting a mate and that increases their chances of passing on their genes ... same with defending said territory, providing food, courting enthusiastically, copulating when the female offers, being attentive to helping with incubation/child-rearing, etc.  By doing all that, his chances of a) having offspring increases exponentially and b) for any offspring he does father it improves their chance of survival.  A peregrine's genetic success is if his offspring have offspring - Pip needs to do a good job with his chicks through to September so they have their best chance to survive until they in turn find a mate and a nestsite and they have young.  Genetics is the long game peregrines may or may not know they are playing.
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: The Peregrine Chick April 23, 2020, 16:12
https://twitter.com/mbperegrines/status/1253431228197244930
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: The Peregrine Chick April 28, 2020, 18:03
https://twitter.com/mbperegrines/status/1255269804992315396
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: dupre501 April 29, 2020, 16:01
Hate to waste a perfectly good nest site. Really hope things will settle here.
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: The Peregrine Chick April 29, 2020, 16:13
Hate to waste a perfectly good nest site. Really hope things will settle here.

I'd hate to waste two perfectly good nest sites - Logan and West Wpg!!
See my note on the Logan board.  :)
Time will tell.
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: The Peregrine Chick May 14, 2020, 17:38
https://twitter.com/mbperegrines/status/1261063221366185989
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: The Peregrine Chick May 24, 2020, 16:59
https://twitter.com/mbperegrines/status/1264676829585199109
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: susha May 25, 2020, 11:06
This is just so heartbreaking!  Seems there were so many nests this time a couple of years ago.  Now, only one so far at Radisson and Hart is alone in spite of his hard work  :-*
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: dupre501 May 28, 2020, 18:28
 :(
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: carly May 29, 2020, 11:58
Maybe that unbanded female that was released from the cell tower will find her way to Hart!  He's so handsome  :-*
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: GCG May 29, 2020, 13:53
Maybe that unbanded female that was released from the cell tower will find her way to Hart!  He's so handsome  :-*

I had the same thoughts carly! She was banded prior to being released. Maybe she will hear Hart's mournful kakking.  ;D
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: The Peregrine Chick May 29, 2020, 18:31
Maybe that unbanded female that was released from the cell tower will find her way to Hart!  He's so handsome  :-*

I had the same thoughts carly! She was banded prior to being released. Maybe she will hear Hart's mournful kakking.  ;D

'Fraid Phoenix and Hart won't be hanging out unless Hart decides he's had enough of ungrateful females and decides to spend the rest of the summer hanging out the guys!  Phoenix it turns out (according to his foot size) is a male!  Beautiful bird though!
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: carly May 29, 2020, 19:24
Maybe that unbanded female that was released from the cell tower will find her way to Hart!  He's so handsome  :-*

I had the same thoughts carly! She was banded prior to being released. Maybe she will hear Hart's mournful kakking.  ;D

'Fraid Phoenix and Hart won't be hanging out unless Hart decides he's had enough of ungrateful females and decides to spend the rest of the summer hanging out the guys!  Phoenix it turns out (according to his foot size) is a male!  Beautiful bird though!

Well darn it all. 
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: The Peregrine Chick June 02, 2020, 16:00
https://twitter.com/mbperegrines/status/1267894506218762241
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: ballywing June 02, 2020, 20:49
That picture breaks my heart, he looks so lonely.  :'(m- Where's the west nest invader, maybe she will find him?  8)
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: The Peregrine Chick June 06, 2020, 12:35
https://twitter.com/mbperegrines/status/1269248251590512641
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: The Peregrine Chick June 12, 2020, 18:14
https://twitter.com/mbperegrines/status/1271577720548470787
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: The Peregrine Chick June 13, 2020, 08:37
https://twitter.com/mbperegrines/status/1271798762764189698
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: irenekl June 13, 2020, 10:57
Aww man dear sweet Hart.   How did this happen?  His story this year is killing me.😔
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: The Peregrine Chick June 13, 2020, 19:04
Aww man dear sweet Hart.   How did this happen?  His story this year is killing me.😔

It happened because Ella can't share!
Hopefully next year if she returns to the Radisson she will give up her extra-curricular activities!
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: The Peregrine Chick June 21, 2020, 17:51
https://twitter.com/mbperegrines/status/1274834462082293768
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: birdbrain June 21, 2020, 19:08
Very sad, especially when you know there are birds who would have probably wanted to nest there!!
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: The Peregrine Chick June 28, 2020, 19:46
https://twitter.com/mbperegrines/status/1277392380220579842
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: The Peregrine Chick July 02, 2020, 18:30
https://twitter.com/mbperegrines/status/1278744243603935233
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: The Peregrine Chick July 03, 2020, 14:43
https://twitter.com/mbperegrines/status/1279118969182597121
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: The Peregrine Chick July 04, 2020, 19:27
https://twitter.com/mbperegrines/status/1279564169117937664
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: The Peregrine Chick July 05, 2020, 17:00
https://twitter.com/ctvwinnipeg/status/1279884415183831046
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: The Peregrine Chick July 05, 2020, 17:01
https://twitter.com/mbperegrines/status/1279891060156743680
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: The Peregrine Chick July 05, 2020, 17:01
https://twitter.com/mbperegrines/status/1279892292568932352
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: The Peregrine Chick July 05, 2020, 17:02
https://twitter.com/thegurlz/status/1279891996388270081
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: The Peregrine Chick July 05, 2020, 17:23
https://twitter.com/mbperegrines/status/1279903455457533958
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: The Peregrine Chick July 13, 2020, 19:04
https://twitter.com/mbperegrines/status/1282825219778977792