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Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
« Reply #36 on: May 04, 2014, 12:07 »
If he doesn't do enough of a good job, would she still accept him next year? 

Would depend on the alternative ... if she returns (keep in mind she is 12 years old this year) and if she has two candidates - Smiley and another male - then Princess may side with Smiley or she may just stay out of the "negotiations" and go with whomever wins.  She didn't seem to have any problems choosing between Hart and Smiley this year, so theoretically she could do the same next year.

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Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
« Reply #35 on: May 04, 2014, 10:09 »
His longevity may depend on how well he performs. Princess is not known for her gentle nature.

If he doesn't do enough of a good job, would she still accept him next year?

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Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
« Reply #34 on: May 04, 2014, 09:24 »
Now he's back and he's hit the lottery, an experienced female and the top spot in Winnipeg.

It's a great story for Smiley, but it does break up the dynasty of four generations of Radisson males, yes?

Actually, not really.

Pop was our first male who was replaced by his son (from the first wild nest) T-Rex, who was replaced by Simba, a nephew of T-Rex's from Brandon (Simba was a son of Phoebe), who was the replaced by T-Rex's son Trey, so was replaced by Trey's son Ivy and now Smiley who is a 2nd cousin once removed through Terminator (grand-daughter of Phoebe). 

So still in the family and making a pattern of sorts, 2 Radisson males, 1 related outsider, 2 Radisson males, 1 unrelated outsider ... Simba was around for 2 years, Smiley is 5 years old now so we'll have to see what kind of longevity he has ...

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Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
« Reply #33 on: May 03, 2014, 23:21 »
Now he's back and he's hit the lottery, an experienced female and the top spot in Winnipeg.

It's a great story for Smiley, but it does break up the dynasty of four generations of Radisson males, yes?


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Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
« Reply #32 on: May 03, 2014, 21:08 »
Now he's back and he's hit the lottery, an experienced female and the top spot in Winnipeg.

Thank you for all the updates and getting the forum back up and running. I had to draw an org chart based on your earlier description of Smiley's ancestry.

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Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
« Reply #31 on: May 03, 2014, 15:24 »
TPC, is this Smiley's first time being a 'Dad' ? - How old is he?   

Yes this is his first nesting - he hatched in 2009 in Grand Forks.  His full sib & nest mate is Alice who was in Wpg in 2010 and Brandon in 2011).  First report on him after he fledged (so far as we know) was in West Winnipeg in the spring of 2010, then again in 2012 and then at the Radisson in 2013, then HSC when Ivy booted him out and then south of the Radisson territory when Cowboy kicked him out of the Logan territory.  Now he's back and he's hit the lottery, an experienced female and the top spot in Winnipeg.

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Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
« Reply #30 on: May 03, 2014, 13:49 »
Will miss Ivy this year -  (hope he's ok!!) -  but it's nice to have a new birdie to get to know. Princess will train him well I'm sure. I'm just SO glad they're in the West Nest - shelter from the howling winds and rains - Phew!!  ;D
TPC, is this Smiley's first time being a 'Dad' ? - How old is he?

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Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
« Reply #29 on: May 03, 2014, 12:49 »
Without actually diagramming Smiley's ancestry, I'm guessing that his relationship to Trey is distant enough that he is actually bringing new blood to Princess's offspring. It'll be interesting to see how he differs from Ivy.

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Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
« Reply #28 on: May 03, 2014, 11:24 »
All that hanging around Winnipeg over the last couple of years. Knew there had to be a reason, opportunity only knocks once. Pretty sneaky Smiley, pretty sneaky.

Actually, this is Smiley's second shot with this strategy - though he failed last year, he was in the right place with a very receptive female with Joli until Cowboy came back.  And he's in good company ... Trey did exactly the same thing and look how well that turned out!  And Screech out in Brandon was another right time, right place male - he happened to be around when Zeus took one of his sabbatical years and the result was - Brooklyn!  Another good result.  Sometimes the sneaky (aka patient) peregrine begats a dynasty.

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Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
« Reply #27 on: May 03, 2014, 10:57 »
Smiley is the son of Terminator who is the daughter of Zeus who is the son of Phoebe who is the sister of T-Rex who was the father of Trey who was the father of Ivy. 

You've got to be kidding . . . okay, I really need a paper and pencil to diagram this . . .  ;)

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Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
« Reply #26 on: May 03, 2014, 08:45 »
The weather isn't getting much better, thank god they're under cover this year. Smiley showed good sense.

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Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
« Reply #25 on: May 03, 2014, 01:21 »
All that hanging around Winnipeg over the last couple of years. Knew there had to be a reason, opportunity only knocks once. Pretty sneaky Smiley, pretty sneaky.

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Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
« Reply #24 on: May 02, 2014, 21:52 »
I was going through withdrawal without my spring peregrine fix.  Smiley the little guy that looked like he was going to stay in Winnipeg for the whole winter is back. As I recall he tried scratching last fall. He is a character.  Princess is having a fling with a younger male.  :o Gosh I hope that works out!

Thank you TPC for getting the forum back up and running. I can just imagine how terribly stressful that must have been. It is appreciated. Thank you to all concerned.

 

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Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
« Reply #23 on: May 02, 2014, 18:40 »
Smiley is the son of Terminator who is the daughter of Zeus who is the son of Phoebe who is the sister of T-Rex who was the father of Trey who was the father of Ivy...
LOL! Had to read that several times in order to connect the dots. Almost sounds biblical... "Terminator begat Smiley, etc. etc." Have no idea how you keep it all straight, TPC. But am certainly glad you possess such a gift. 8)

Great news that Princess & Smiley have eggs. Will be interesting to see what kind of dad Smiley is.
On another note, weren't Princess & Hart an "item" before Smiley claimed the Radisson nest box?
If so, could it be possible that some of those eggs have Hart's genes in them? Just wondering? :-\

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Re: Radisson - 2014 / Smiley & Princess
« Reply #22 on: May 02, 2014, 14:20 »
Great to see the forum back, thanks PC for all your hard work.