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Offline bev.

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U of Alberta - 2008 / Damon & Radisson
« on: May 28, 2008, 07:19 »
http://www.falconcam.med.ualberta.ca/cam3.html


We have 2 eggs and maybe a third.
This may be a girl from manitoba ,we are checking
There have been 3 fights for the nest already this year

We do not have sound or live streaming but we have 10 second refresh

Last year out resident female (a transmitter female) was ousted by a female from Balzac plant , Alberta. They put 2 atrificial eggs in and then put in a foster chick.  This is all on the site

This year the transmitter girl tried again and lost .  Two days later this female came and challenged  Balzac girl and Balzac girl was run off.  (I believe she was ready to lay eggs and she had just been in  a fight 2 days earlier.

This new girl, has already had to defend again by transmitter girl and possibly again by Balzac girl.

Waiting word as to where she is from. having trouble getting the information.(Biologists are having trouble getting it)

She has just laid 2 eggs. On on May22, one on May 25 and we are waiting to see if there are any more.  (maybe today.  )  So for awhile yet it will just be incubating)
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Re: U of Alberta - 2008 / Damon & Radisson
« Reply #1 on: May 28, 2008, 07:37 »
Goodness me, it must be a nice nest!  How exactly do they fight Bev?  Fly at each other and use there claws, or does one stay in nest and they use there beaks, or just a whole lot of both?  Curious.   :D
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Re: U of Alberta - 2008 / Damon & Radisson
« Reply #2 on: May 28, 2008, 09:03 »
I witnessed the first fight on the cam and could not watch.  But one female was in the box and the other  female came in  and was right on the female in the box. they fought in the box and then were out.
Last year they fought in the box and then fell to the roof and the biologists separated them. We did not want to see anyone die.

The second fight this year (the present female toyed with the one in the box first.  She was on the roof of the box and would look in from the roof and then go back up .  about a half hour later she came to the perch of the box Wings out and then the camera froze but 2 minutes later they were both gone , so the one in the box probably flew off( she had just been in a fight 2 days earlier and I believe was close to laying eggs.)

the other fight s took place away from the box.  Sometimes it is in the air , and they will sometimes slam another one into a building .

I do not like this sort of thing.  i like things all calm. My favorite peregrine female is my transmitter girl and I got to witness her release last week after her last fight with ,we think this female(away from the box). she ended up in rehab. unfortunately , the Balzac girl met her demise and was found dead around this area last Thursday.

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Re: U of Alberta - 2008 / Damon & Radisson
« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2008, 09:17 »
Oh it all seems so horrid.  Terribly sad too. Your descriptions make it all so vivid.  I would not be able to watch either I am afraid.  I guess that is the ways of the wild huh, where the expression, "only the strong survive" comes from I expect. Thanks for the explanation.  I would never have known.  I thought (was hoping )perhaps that they just hissed and screeched at one another and maybe dove at each other, callling each others bluff so to speak.  So they are and can be very vicious.  Wow.  Must have heartbreaking to lose one almost two over all that. 

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Re: U of Alberta - 2008 / Damon & Radisson
« Reply #4 on: May 28, 2008, 10:07 »
this is new for biologists also becasue there was a time when they did not think that peregrines fought each other.  A male will not interfere with the fight of the females. this poor male(or maybe not :) :)) has had to mate twice this year.  the first female this year was as I said just about ready to lay eggs and then she was chased off by the present female.  Then, poor guy ;) he had to start all over again.
Vice versa a female will not interfere with two males fighting. 
I have such a set of mixed emotions bu t I guess we are here to see the peregrines increase in numbers and i guess they are being successful if there are battles for site.  I just shudder.
I am a real marshmallow at heart and shed many a tear over this.  too bad we could not post pictures as I could post some.

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Re: U of Alberta - 2008 / Damon & Radisson
« Reply #5 on: May 28, 2008, 12:16 »
Actually, territorial battles are not uncommon, they may just not be as common in Canada as they are in some places in the US.  And most of them do not result in death.   In recent years in the US Midwest, there have been a number of resident birds, both male and female, lost at nest sites as a result of territorial competition.  Some are even found dead in the nestboxes they refused to give up.  And yes, it is a tough thing to watch.  Nature frequently is.

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Re: U of Alberta - 2008 / Damon & Radisson
« Reply #6 on: May 28, 2008, 20:58 »
Hi, Bev.  I couldn't have watched it either.  And your descriptions paint a good enough picture for me.  Thanks for the info.  Having said that, you can send photos to TPC.  Guess they'd have to go in the PG-13 part of the gallery. 

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Re: U of Alberta - 2008 / Damon & Radisson
« Reply #7 on: June 05, 2008, 15:16 »
Got an update here for ya folks, but only a partial one at this point.  More information will be sent soon from the Edmonton Project.

The female at the site is *R/7 (Radisson) a 2006 wild-hatch from, you guessed it, the Radisson Hotel.  She is one of Trey's and Princess' kids.  In fact, she is the sister of Bandit and the Little Daredevil for those of you who were watching the Falcon Cam in 2006.  Radisson was hatched on the same ledge as this year and who we haven't heard anything about since she left the province in September 2006. 

Will send you more information as I get it.

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Re: U of Alberta - 2008 / Damon & Radisson
« Reply #8 on: June 06, 2008, 01:40 »
Very exciting!
Does this also mean that the Peregrine falcon R/19 on the youtube video (electrocuted, saved, rehabilitated, and released) linked today (June 5) is a Radisson Peregrine, too?

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Re: U of Alberta - 2008 / Damon & Radisson
« Reply #9 on: June 06, 2008, 07:06 »
Wouldn't that be nice  :D but no, not one of our birds.  The band number is similar to a series of bands used in Ontario though, so am going to see if I can track it down ....

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Re: U of Alberta - 2008 / Damon & Radisson
« Reply #10 on: June 10, 2008, 10:10 »
Our two are incubating nicely. I am a thinking the first hatch will be end of June.

so time to relax for a bit.

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Re: U of Alberta - 2008 / Damon & Radisson
« Reply #11 on: June 11, 2008, 13:55 »
2nd egg laid on May 25th, so guess-timating the hatch date, sometime after June 25th - 30 days after 3rd egg laid, assuming 3rd egg laid on the 26th.  Will get an estimate from the folks in Edmonton and post here. 

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Re: U of Alberta - 2008 / Damon & Radisson
« Reply #12 on: June 12, 2008, 08:02 »
So good to hear news about one of our Winnipeg chicks, especially one that I remember watching grow up!

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Re: U of Alberta - 2008 / Damon & Radisson
« Reply #13 on: June 12, 2008, 12:04 »
We only have 2 eggs. were hoping  for 3 but I consider us lucky to have 2 as she has had to fend off 2 takeovers herself.( we did not witness it but evidence points to it. she gave every appearance of laying more but sometime after 2nd egg she may have had  to defend nest site.

I keep real close tabs on this site.  Information is very slow on the site itself and I send them in news all the time. these were taken on May 26 . I f I am allowed I will post other pictures this is the male in first picture and female in second picture





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Re: U of Alberta - 2008 / Damon & Radisson
« Reply #14 on: June 12, 2008, 12:09 »
Looking at the webcam image, looks like she has her mother's speckles and her head pattern, though fewer and less noticeable.  Going to be interesting to get some photos from the Edmonton Project for comparison.